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  • 21 December 2012, 17:26

Arthur Scargill Loses High Court Flat Fight

Former miners' leader Arthur Scargill has lost his High Court fight to have the National Union of Mineworkers continue to meet the costs of his London flat for his lifetime.

The NUM had called on Mr Justice Underhill to declare that it has no such continuing obligation to 74-year-old Mr Scargill, its President for 20 years until July 2002.

The union also successfully disputed Mr Scargill's fuel allowance at his Barnsley home and payment for the preparation of his annual tax return - but not the cost of his security system in Yorkshire.

Mr Scargill has occupied the Barbican apartment - rented from the Corporation of London - since June 1982.

The rent and associated expenses were paid by the union until 2011, except for a period between 1985 and 1991 when he met them.

The NUM's counsel, Nicholas Davidson QC, had argued the case was not about whether anyone thought any particular obligation ought to exist - but whether it did exist, based on documents dating back 30 years and the identification of what terms were agreed between duly authorised representatives of the NUM and Mr Scargill.

Mr Scargill's counsel, Timothy Pitt-Payne QC, argued his client was entitled to the retirement benefits under the terms of his successive contracts of employment with the NUM.

Mr Scargill had drawn the court's attention to the NUM's practice of providing accommodation in retirement for former full-time national officials.

That practice had been applied to his predecessor Joe Gormley - later Lord Gormley - and it was determined in 1982 that he was to enjoy the same allowances and facilities.

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blue side

12:24pm on 21/12/2012

So Arthur had the benefits paid for by the members - nice work if you can get it just like politicians and bankers certain people keep referring to as FAT CATS

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adam hale

12:26pm on 21/12/2012

Oh my God!!! How dare he expect the Union to fund his 'pad' when there are people losing their houses and flats all over the country!!! This is also happening ironically in areas where mining was a main stay and now they have nothing! Blooming hypocrite!! Claiming to be speaking for the working man and then on the other side, bleeding the system that he supposedly supports, dry with his 'demands'! Shown his true colours at last!!!

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davenlesley

12:27pm on 21/12/2012

Times have changed Arthur. When these priveleges were extended to Joe Gormley the NUM had hundreds of thousands of members and could afford it. You were instrumental in destroying this once proud body of men and the handful left see no reason to keep you in the lap of luxury as a reward for this. Odd to see this so called class warrior now trying to live off the backs of working miners like the parasites he used to bang on about

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blue side

2:30pm on 21/12/2012

And Barbican no less not exactly a bed sit

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john

12:34pm on 21/12/2012

Contracts must only be honoured for bankers and the wealthy.

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LucienSolo1

12:39pm on 21/12/2012

Very well said Dave Adam and Blue side. Sadly this same self-serving attitude prevails still.

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Charles Rickards

12:45pm on 21/12/2012

I thought he was dead!

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David Francis

12:56pm on 21/12/2012

Any thoughts on this CR?

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David Francis

2:15pm on 21/12/2012

No C Rickards - C56R! All we're getting is silence

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Adrian Wagstaff

2:13pm on 21/12/2012

He spent his entire life fighting for the rights and welfare of all the mineworkers in Britain, then in the end, everyone just ignores everything he ever did for them! He marched and protested for increased wages for all the mineworkers, he struggled and fought for all of them and was even hit on the head with a truncheon during one riot. Then, all his personal suffering and hard work for all those millions of people, is totally ignored. It wasn't only the people working for his union he helped but lots of other workers and unions during the 1980s also followed his example! All the people he suffered to help and they just forget everything he ever did for them!

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blue side

2:34pm on 21/12/2012

Adrian and look what he achieved - few miners, demise of industry etc.etc.etc. Was he for the workers or himself if you start a campaign you must expect to take the consequences

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Grant Berry

3:07pm on 21/12/2012

He was the only miner to upgrade his house in the miniers strike. The strike was his baby used to fight his fight. Chip on both shoulders, but cost him nothing only the miners lost pay

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davenlesley

4:49pm on 21/12/2012

Adrian. And he helped destroy the very jobs he said he was allegedly fighting for. I know a few ex miners and some support him but just as many despise the man for what he did to them.

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Byron Eckhardt

6:20pm on 21/12/2012

He carried on drawing his salary for six monthes during the strike,while his members and their familys got nowt,and he only stopped when he got found out,were all in this together lads..sounds familiar.

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john

7:44pm on 21/12/2012

I see the dopes still believe the anti-union propaganda of the eighties Adrian, even our NUM chief civilian officer was working for MI5. There is a very good book by Seumus Milne, "The Enemy Within" which shines a light on what really went on.

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Adrian Wagstaff

9:27pm on 21/12/2012

Yeah and your Seamus Milne, however his name is spelt, made lots of money by writing a book, about the miners' strike which you are claiming Arthur Scargill made money from? Writing a book about it is the same as profiteering from the plight of miners. Presumably, he did television and radio interviews to publicise his book.

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Grant Berry

2:53pm on 21/12/2012

Chris Robinson is a bit quiet on this blog..........funny that

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davenlesley

4:57pm on 21/12/2012

Grant. Wait until he gets in from work and then he will get started

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Grant Berry

6:28pm on 21/12/2012

He might be asking LORD Gormley what to say..........

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Grant Berry

3:05pm on 21/12/2012

The face of socialism stripped bare

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Adrian Wagstaff

3:44pm on 21/12/2012

British miners have been some of the wealthiest and best looked after on Earth thanks to the great personal sacrifices of people such as Arthur Scargill. All of the miners I ever spoke to, including some of my relatives and their friends seem very happy with the amount of money they have made in life. Arthur Scargill enabled some people to continue working while their mines were not making a profit but still capable of producing coal AND this lead to, I believe, different methods of mining coal all around the World including maximising the amount of coal produced including by sifting through the surface of mines to get any last remaining reserves. Without the likes of Arthur Scargills, all the miners would have been forced to queue in 3,000,000 person long 1980s unemployment lines or had their lives just trampled all over by an uncaring government and mines would have been closed down, even when there was still lots of coal in them. Compare British mining to that in the rest of the World and there is a very clear difference, due to Arthur Scargill, who, noteably, was also a miner!

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Adrian Wagstaff

3:45pm on 21/12/2012

Oops! Did I place my comment in the wrong part of the page? Looks like it.

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Byron Eckhardt

6:31pm on 21/12/2012

I was there during the strike,your only seeing a rose tinted version,I saw striking miners and thier political allies attacking people who had nothing to do with mining because they were still going to work,,that was the num at its worst,

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john

7:46pm on 21/12/2012

Rowlocks.

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5:34pm on 21/12/2012

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Fred Spoons

6:17pm on 21/12/2012

Pull up the drawbridge Arthur

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shirley sutton

6:25pm on 21/12/2012

My comment was removed cos I asked how many other ex union leaders were still getting money from their members

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john

7:51pm on 21/12/2012

Sad how the sheep swallow the propaganda, at least the Miners had the cojones to fight back. Working class people now regard unions as their enemy thanks to the politicians and the media , that is why their conditions of employment have worsened and their pay has remained stagnant. God help us, we now have working people having to use soup kitchens to manage.

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Chris Robinson

10:46pm on 21/12/2012

Arthur Scargill stood head and shoulders above most other union leaders in the 1980s. Instead of standing aside and allowing the Thatcherites to attack our industries unopposed as the 'leaders' of the TUC and Labour Party did, at least he was prepared to stand and fight. The trade union bureaucracy turned their backs, yet millions of ordinary working class people filled buckets full of the pounds and pennies in support. It was ordinary miners and their families who fought the strike against a range of government forces - the beefed up police (some of them drafted in soldiers in illegally unidentifiable police uniforms), agent provocateurs were used to cause violence, financial penalties were introduced, the MI5 were involved and the courts and press went along for the ride.

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Chris Robinson

10:49pm on 21/12/2012

Not only that, the Tories changed the law so that the families of striking workers could not claim benefits, secondary picketing was outlawed where workers could support others in struggle, even the TV licencing vans were amassed to target mining areas, while Kinnock and the rest of the trade union officialdom stood by and, in so doing, saved Thatcher's bacon - a fact that Thatcher herself acknowledged. She had the ideal opposition, she once said.

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Chris Robinson

11:01pm on 21/12/2012

Having said all that, Scargill himself, as I've said many times before, if he was a genuine socialist - which he isn't - he would only accept an average wage of the workers he represents. And this is what should happen across the board in the labour movement from shop steward to General Secretary, from councillor to MP. They should all only receive the wage of an average worker that way they won't live the same life style and adopt the same class outlook as those above cushioned as the labour aristocracy are against every day pressures the people the represent are faced with all the time. If they lived under the same conditions, they would fight a lot harder for change. Why would our labour aristocracy fight to change a society they are doing very well out of, thank you very much?

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