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  • 16 August 2012, 6:31

Australia Upholds Logo Ban On Cigarette Packs

Australia's highest court has upheld a government plan to force tobacco companies to sell their products in plain packets with no logos or branding.

From December 1, all cigarette packets sold in Australia will be a drab olive colour, with uniform lettering and large graphic photographs showing the effects of smoking - such as diseased lungs and mouth cancer.

Major global tobacco companies had been fighting the new law, which is a world first.

Australia's attorney-general, Nicola Roxon, said the court decision was "a victory for all those families who have lost someone to a tobacco-related illness".

"This is a watershed moment for tobacco control around the world," she said in a statement.

"Australia's actions are being closely watched by governments around the world. Other countries might now consider their next steps.

"Today should be a clarion call to every country grappling with the costs and harm of tobacco and hopefully encourage them to take the next tobacco control steps appropriate for them."

The tobacco companies had argued the new law robs them of their right to branding, and is unconstitutional. They also said the government would unfairly benefit by being able to promote their own message on packaging while not compensating the tobacco manufacturers.

British American Tobacco (BAT) spokesman Scott McIntyre said the company was disappointed by the court's decision but would comply with the law.

"Although the (law) passed the constitutional test, it's still a bad law that will only benefit organised crime groups which sell illegal tobacco on our streets," Mr McIntyre said.

He added: "The illegal cigarette black market will grow further when all packs look the same and are easier to copy."

Imperial Tobacco echoed that argument, with spokeswoman Sonia Stewart adding: "Plain packaging will simply provide counterfeiters with a road map.

"The legislation will make the counterfeiters' job both cheaper and easier by mandating exactly how a pack must look."

The government has dismissed these claims saying anti-counterfeit measures will be included on the new-style packs.

Australia already has some of the world's toughest legislation surrounding the retail of tobacco

All cigarette packets are hidden behind shutters in shops and many states and local councils have strict anti-smoking laws banning lighting up in areas such as outdoor cafes and on beaches.

BAT, Philip Morris International, Imperial Tobacco and Japan Tobacco International are worried that the law will set a global precedent that could slash billions of pounds from the values of their brands.

Australia estimates there are 15,000 deaths nationally each year from tobacco-related illnesses and that smoking costs more than Aus$30bn (£20bn) a year in healthcare and lost productivity.

Britain, along with other countries such as Canada and New Zealand, is considering introducing similar legislation.

what do you think?

first 20 comments

Debra Wiseman

5:27am on 15/8/2012

This is good news.

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aa aa

4:13pm on 15/8/2012

Indeed

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stevie may

6:10am on 15/8/2012

What a waste of time and money. If your a smoker and dont fancy the idea of drab cigarette packet do what smokers are doing - get yourself a cigarette case. No nasty pictures to look at when your trying to enjoy a crafty fag. Job done

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Anthony Smith

6:38am on 15/8/2012

So can you just legallize marijuana and put pictures of people asleep on a train track on the packaging please? Basically you are admitting how bad for you tobacco is but still selling it while you stop the use of some natural products which can help a lot of people.

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aa aa

3:50pm on 15/8/2012

it's a step towards banning tobacco altogether. Anyone who objects to that , needs looking at.

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Anthony Smith

5:54pm on 15/8/2012

Oh, dear....another Anthony Smith....how confusing...LOL!!

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shirley sutton

6:52am on 15/8/2012

Open door to fake brands

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aa aa

7:02am on 15/8/2012

There could never be an all out ban on tobacco products in this country. The directors of the big tobacco companies, always include someone with strong government connections . Our biggest tobacco company, has Kenneth Clarke, as a director, it used to have Pat Sheehy (one of Thatchers henchmen)as its chairman . Typical of all the big companies, get the government men on board, they know how to block any restrictions. A total ban, would cost the country in tax, but that would be offset by the gains made by the NHS , and manufacturing. Ban tobacco now. I've packed in smoking after 32 years of it, so i see both sides of the argument you're going to give.

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aa aa

3:54pm on 15/8/2012

So i've been marked down for this comment. Obviously three heavy smokers don't like what i say. Well when you're coughing your lungs out on a hospital bed, i don't want my taxes paying to keep you going. You stink, your breath stinks, your clothes stink, and you are heading for an early grave. And you mark me down . lol Sad bunch of addicts.

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Kenny Turner

7:07am on 15/8/2012

About time, too. Incredible to think that anyone, anywhere can still buy something over the counter that is detrimental to health - in any dozage - and can ultimately kill. I say ban all cigarettes in all countries, forever. I don't care if you're a smoker - you KNOW this is about time. Smokers; come back and tell me - when you're 66 years old or younger - and you're gasping for breath, maybe missing a leg, that you're happy with a life of nicotine. Banish them from our world.

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Gordon Wright

9:53am on 15/8/2012

Nevertheless, it is a matter of personal choice........

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bobh_385

10:54am on 15/8/2012

If you want to banish something that can ultimately kill,you'd better start with human beings.

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Danny Cooper

11:28am on 15/8/2012

Lets ban cars, fizzy drinks, fast food, alcohol, over the counter painkillers, bicycles etc... Read back what you've put and ask yourself if you are living on the same planet as the rest of us.

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Name witheld

12:07pm on 15/8/2012

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aa aa

3:57pm on 15/8/2012

Danny, bicycles don't give you a disease, but might cause accidental death. There's a big difference, but a typical smoker in denial , like yourself would never admit it. An addictive substance that contains poison cannot be compared to a bike. What planet are you on, pal.??? Seriously.

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Edgar Beckett

7:22am on 15/8/2012

Those whom the Gods intend to destroy, they first drive mad.

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Julie Crumpton

8:50am on 16/8/2012

You make me giggle, Edgar, lol!

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gary campbell

8:38am on 15/8/2012

According to NHS and Customs and Excise figures, for every £1 the NHS spend on treating smoking related diseases, the government takes in £8 thru duty on tobacco so the powers that be dont want the population to stop smoking, they cant afford that, they want it to APPEAR they want the population to stop smoking 'cos its good PR!

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Gordon Wright

9:53am on 15/8/2012

Correct.............

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aa aa

4:02pm on 15/8/2012

Does anyone seriously think we shouldn't ban tobacco, to keep the economy healthy. The mind boggles.

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Jeffrey Butler

8:43am on 15/8/2012

when are they going to do the same to the drinks industry, which cost the nhs a lot more !

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Edgar Beckett

9:36am on 15/8/2012

Christmas every day in your house ?

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gengisken1227

8:49am on 15/8/2012

Governments don't like people to think independently - we're then more difficult to control.

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barry

9:24am on 15/8/2012

It took a Aortic 8 hour emergency operation to make me stop, so can't expect somehing as simple as this to stop them, can it?? There's always hope for them. Took me a year to recover from op, no smoke no pressure now! I'm 65.

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Gordon Wright

10:00am on 15/8/2012

The opnly person that can stop a smoker from smoking is the smoker himself (or herself). The vast majority of these "Measures" are pointless. If the Government really wanted people to stop, they would ban smoking outright but they dare not do this. To do so would alienate 10 million or more smokers representing around one third of the electorate and this would probably cost them the next election. Also they cannot afford to lose the tax revenue of billions of pounds from tobacco which pays for, (among other things), the NHS. This applies to both major parties.

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bobh_385

10:58am on 15/8/2012

I quite agree these type of measures are pointless.I gave up a year ago (patting myself on the back here lol) and never once did packaging ever make me smoke or change brands.Likewise seeing a word on the side of a racing car did not make me start smoking in the first place.

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aa aa

4:08pm on 15/8/2012

When the ban on smoking in pubs came into force, that helped me stop smoking. Every time i packed in, i would last about a week, then one pint and i had to have a smoke. Even though you could smoke outside, it still helped. Any sort of restriction on advertising will help, maybe not you, but others might get the message and act on it. Why do people object to this, i just can't see why. These smokers are an obtuse bunch. I know , i used to be one. .... ...... Used to be one...... great that. Carry on blowing your money out of you seriously deminishing lungs, suckers. Or pack em in .... it's a piece of p...

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bobh_385

7:55am on 16/8/2012

Well done aa aa its a great feeling isn't it and the money saved is mind blowing.My doctor prescribed a drug called Champix--worked a treat.

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Louisa Gieldon

11:19am on 15/8/2012

Good. It may not help current smokers but it will take the glamour away from the packets - just one part of a big jigsaw to put people off.

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Edgar Beckett

3:06pm on 15/8/2012

A word of caution There are those of us who are not perfect, some must rebel against the conventions of the day. Remember what happened in the USA when they tried to be a nation of angels : a crime wave, suicides at an all time high, mental hospitals full ! you don`t really want that .

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aa aa

4:12pm on 15/8/2012

Don't get so deep, Edgar. They are just trying to take away the attraction of smoking a concoction of poisonous substances. Mental hospitals full, because they took the brands off the packets...... oh dear.

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Louisa Gieldon

7:55pm on 15/8/2012

Iwould hate if the world was bland, dull and full of conformists Edgar. That's not my idea of a good gig at all. But as aa aa says, we're only talking about trying to discourage our young folk from poisoning themselves whilst making some others a whole lot of money

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bjnk

11:11pm on 15/8/2012

Louisa are you saying that our young people are drawn to a cigarette counter by the colour and logo on a packet which already carries large warnings on the front and gruesome pictures on the back, please tell me where the glamour is that is attracting them. Plain packaging will not change anything, if they are going to smoke they will smoke just like other drug users where the stuff is wrapped in foil. Education is the key

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Edgar Beckett

6:26am on 16/8/2012

The point that I have not made very well is -- It is not going to stop Here !! The politicians are getting somewhat sanctimonious about this. They will put a total ban on cigarettes and smoking. alcohol is the next obvious target. If people want to smoke then let them do so, they know the risks. they could be doing something else !!!

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Name witheld

1:58pm on 15/8/2012

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Paul Grice

3:38pm on 15/8/2012

Is not the branding of anything covered by a patent .patent being something no one can change or alter as it is a branding logo . As the Olympic logo can not be changed or used . All the sports revenue from sponsors has gone just because a bunch of do gooders what to tell us how we should live

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Joan Burgess

5:13pm on 15/8/2012

Walter Raleigh had no idea what he was unleashing on the world!

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Anthony Smith

5:48pm on 15/8/2012

Yes.....nasty things, those spuds!!

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Julie Crumpton

8:53am on 16/8/2012

Lol!

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Louisa Gieldon

7:59pm on 15/8/2012

I am an ex smoker-18 years off the nicotine. This may well not put a single smoker on the road to pink lungs again. However de-glamorising the fags may , along with other tactics, help stop young people taking it up.

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movvi

12:03am on 16/8/2012

I can't believe that anyone finds the current packaging glamorous or sexy to be honest. When I see pupils out of hours the naughty ones very often make their cigarettes obvious to me as if to pose or seem defiant. These same kids will just do the same with the new packets, clearly. The sensible ones are put off by the gruesome pictures of various diseased bits hanging off etc, but then these wouldn't smoke anyway as they're so eager to do well and be good! The pictures have the opposite effect on the "naughties" though - they just make them seem even more hardcore for smoking - which is all they want really - a bit of kudos or even just attention...

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Julie Crumpton

8:53am on 16/8/2012

Hmm, my daughters a smoker, I never even tried it, but she has said, no amount of diseased lungs etc, ....or plain packets, would make any difference, if you want to smoke, you will!

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Stuart Walmsley

9:08am on 16/8/2012

Democracy in action.

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