Benefits: Changes 'To Hit Disabled People'
Up to half a million disabled people and their families could be worse off under the new system of Universal Credit once it is fully implemented, according to a report.
It suggested some people might even be forced out of their homes as a result of the changes.
An inquiry headed by former wheelchair athlete Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson said several "key" groups would lose out under the Universal Credit, which will start to replace much of the benefits and tax credits system from next year.
The study used research showing that once the changes are fully in place, 100,000 disabled children stand to lose up to £28 a week, 230,000 severely disabled people who do not have another adult to help them could receive between £28 and £58 a week less, and up to 116,000 disabled people who work could be at risk of losing around £40 a week.
The report said the impact of the cuts in support for disabled children could be "extremely severe" for families currently receiving the mid-rate "care component" of the Disability Living Allowance (DLA), a payment made where a child can be severely disabled but does not need care overnight.
Of those families affected, one in 10 expressed fears that they could no longer afford their own home, while two thirds said they would have to cut back on food, and more than a half said it would lead them into debt.
In some of the most severe cases, some families said the changes to support for disabled children could result in their children having to be placed in full-time residential care.
The report said 83% of those eligible for the severe disability premium (SDP), which will be abolished under the changes, reported that a reduction in benefit levels would mean they would have to cut back on food and 80% said they would have to cut the amount they spent on heating.
The changes start to come into force from October next year and current benefit claimants who move on to Universal Credit will not see an immediate reduction in their payments.
But they will have their level of benefit frozen, with no increases to take into account rising prices, campaigners said, and they may see their support cut immediately if their household circumstances change.
The report, Holes in the Safety Net: the impact of universal credit on disabled people and their families, had the backing of The Children's Society, Citizens Advice and Disability Rights UK and drew on research from these bodies.
Lady Grey-Thompson, who shares the title of Great Britain's most successful female Paralympian with cyclist Sarah Storey, said the findings of the report did not make "easy reading".
"The clear message is that many households with disabled people are already struggling to keep their heads above water," she said.
"Reducing support for families with disabled children, disabled people who are living alone, families with young carers and disabled people in work, risk driving many over the edge in future."
A spokeswoman for the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) said savings from abolishing the adult disability premiums and changes in the child rate would be "recycled" into higher payments for more severely disabled people.
She said the report was "highly selective and could result in irresponsible scaremongering", adding that Universal Credit would provide greater incentives for people - including disabled people - to try out work, and would reduce the financial and administrative barriers to work that exist in the current system.
what do you think?
There are spongers & abusers of the benefits system amongst the disabled community just as there are abusers of the system amongst able bodied people so if savings are made stopping such abuse then im sure the most affected will be protected.And as an example we all no some1 who claims they cant work & get every handout going inc the biggest scam in the country motability a shiny brand new car subsidised by the taxpayer & in a lot of cases the car is mostly used by an able bodied relative for personal use.
Don't talk so bloody soft, man.
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swop places with you anytime. Where on earth are all these "every handout going"? My wife and I get ONE. No rent rebate, no car or anything else and I am sure we are far from being alone.
Mark If you are in good health I will swop with you and perhaps you will understand being disabled is not by choice and I have worked all my life both in the services and in public life until my MS took hold and has temporarly stopped me until I improve and I will then get back into work. Motobility is not a scam it is a very good scheme to help dissabled to be mobil. I sugest you do your homework before spouting utter rubish.
Sorry folks, but I know personally three people who fit precisely into the category that Mark describes. I would say though that if the people in question had any intention of working (which they most categorically do not), where are the jobs for them? I know, from recent experience, it's incredibly difficult to get another job.
Absolutely right. I knew one lady who'd managed to get herself a free disability car. She wasn't disabled badly enough to preclude walking a good way.
this goverment needs to go and people need to act now
We'd save money if they did something about people claiming housing benefits they're not entitled too but system for reporting fraud is no good want too many details address should be enough for them to investigate not all what they want now.
The disabled, the young, single parents and pensioners are being singled out and attacked often painted as worthless cheats and accused of cheating the system. Then we hear about Starbucks and other big companies that make millions of pounds in the UK not paying anything back in to the system. punishments need to be tougher for any fraud be it someone pretending to be disabled or a company fiddling their taxes. The tax rules need to be simplified so accountants and lawyers can't shuffle out nice little tricks. British people need to stand united to tell this and any government that we have had enough and demand changes to laws to make this country a fair place to live.
What a sorry state British Politics are in when genuine cases are being targeted! Is the system that corrupt? Shame on them.
yes they.l take off these people but drug abusers wont be penalised u watch. disgusting.
Drug abusers will be penalised too, Andrea, so you will be able to sleep at night now and dream about what a 'great man' Jimmy Savile was.
Andrea, anyone in their right mind detests drug abusers or should I say what they do. But they were not always users someone higher up namely the suppliers and dealers are getting rich from other peoples misery. They probably vote tory and pay no tax. The common denominator here is thirst for power and greed.
Yeah Dave, target the "real" crooks the disabled, while rogues like Starbucks get away tax free. And now the MPs want a huge pay rise for flapping their worthless tongues about. Meanwhile they are planning to spend three billion pounds tarting up the Houses Of Parliament, their place of "work" . Our dear masters, modern day reverse Robin Hoods, they take from the poor and give to the rich.
You got that right john. . If ever we needed Robin Hood or Wat Tyler back its now
hope drug abusers and alcoholics are targeted too. they the biggest scroungers.
Still on form then Andrea
Substance abusers are paid to deter them from robbing to fund their habit. They are also paid to keep a dog because they are vulnerable ! Are they the aggressors or the victims, they can't have it both ways !
No, the biggest scroungers, Andrea, are the wealthy who dodge taxes to the tune of billions of pounds (£25bn) per year. Drug addicts and alcoholics are ill people. Addiction is a sickness. But then you should know that being (allegedly) a 'nurse'.
Why do people vote down those who cite fact. It is sad we have an anti wealth culture that can only be born out of jealousy or ill conceived perception of automatic entitlement. Consider if you only had rich and poor - the poor most likely use the welfare system these being the elderly, disabled and low income. However it is proven that there are those who are able to work but prefer to live on benefits (they are free riders). Likewise there are those with aspirations to rise above poverty. The problem is sorting the genuine from the free riders. Now for the rich, they will seek to minimise their tax burden and have a high disposable income which they spend on investments, goods and services. This spend attracts tax and requires labour who in turn pays tax and buy goods and services. Some of this labour will ultimately find a niche and become wealthy themselves repeating the process. Drive out the wealthy and you have no income. Hence the value to the economy of the rich is positive whether they are corporate or natural persons. The benefit system has been abused and the problem is finding the abusers so the underlying argument is why should the rich or anyone else support free riders? So lets all get off this anti wealth kick and as for Starbucks have you not read they are expanding which means employment.
Expansion? Are you having a laugh? Take a look at our high streets- ghost towns thanks to the big corporate bullies that churn out vile synthetic products that have huge implications on our health. They take jobs away from the man on the street, the town, the village! And as for your attack on the benefits system- yes people do take the mick- but before you slate the working class i suggests you take a look around and then shut your mouth. Starbucks don't pay tax! Expansion? Why doesn't bob smith coffee have to pay tax- he wants to expand too! The rich go around avoiding tax with complete impunity paying themselves bonus' bankers get off scott free paying themselves huge bonus' but wait- we must reduce the amount of benefits the needy in our society to name it through the week. Do persecute the rich? No. This is not a recession its a robbery! The theft of public money into private pockets and you sit there defending it. Ha ha ha! You are either a rich man or a rich mans wet dream.
Jimmy you are miles away from reality. I am not rich but live in the real world I suggest you do a little research and study it would free your mind.
Blue side - the real world? Don't make me laugh!
Sad jimmy that there appears many with closed minds.
Drive out the wealthy and SEIZE their income, after all, they've only made it off our backs in the first place. Then we can provide work for those who have to live on benefits. It's nothing to do with 'jealousy', don't be so childish. It's everything to do with people being sick to death of being exploited, taken for a ride, receiving low pay or no work while the rich continue to make money hand over fist.
What about the people like me Chris ? I work for someone who ypu would call rich. I don't earn alot, I live modestly, pay all my taxes and am happy with my life as it is. Where would I and the thousands like me fit into your brave new world ?
Blue side- you talk of reality but our fiat currency isn't even real! Ironic or what. Its about production- make the poor work harder by making them poorer, and the rich work harder by making them richer! This illusion of money isn't reality- this world of consumerism and greed isn't real! And you have the temerity to suggest i have a closed mind. Ha! I am experiencing this consciousness though this machine we call the body- we have no understanding of reality or in fact the kind of blissful world we would have if we didn't spend our lives trying to disadvantage our neighbours for our own benefit. Reality? What a joker
Oh and lets not forget that the banks and corporations that own these tax free companies siphon off our money straight into the war machine that has devastated the middle east. Wake up Molly the sheep!
Well, t. bulgin, I don't know your personal details but it sounds like you work for a small to medium company. It also sounds, based on your previous posts, like he pays well - is he the one who pays a labourer £26,000? When I speak of nationalisation I mean the commanding heights of the economy, the big banks and corporations. In the case of workers in small-medium companies, obviously their rights would be restored - no fire at will. There would be more democracy in the workplace. Rents/mortgages would be cheaper, as would food, health, transport so there would be more for people to benefit from. Your boss would have to pay more tax than he probably is doing already if he is a rich as you say. Without knowing more details, I can't say more.
Can I just point out please that money is a finite resource. If it wasn't, there would be no point to it. This means that for one person to become richer (ie - have more than the average amount of money), someone else must become poorer. This idea that everyone can become rich and happy if they just work hard enough is a load of old cobblers. The rich have the ability to manipulate the system to ensure that their wealth is never taken off them by the poor. This therefore gives them an unfair advantage. Given this, is it really surprising that some people give up on the system and choose to do nothing to get something. After all, that's the capitalist way. Do as little as possible for as much as possible. If some people truely applaud those that follow this doctrine, then they should be happy for these 'scroungers'
Why do tories despise disabled people SO much?
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Stevie - that , my friend is just one part of their entire reason d'etre. Our nation is sleep walking into a very , very dark place. I imagine even thatcher sees all this as beyond even her wildest dreams.
Stevie, it's not just the disabled they despise. Try being made redundant and you'll soon see that you're not one of their favourite people! Oh...try being a public sector worker too!! (which I am not btw..)
Its in their genes, they go to schools which teach them to talk smart, to flatter the plebs into believing they too can become one of them (people's greed), but they know the vast majority will never reach their wealth or power but it keeps them in their place followers like dogs and sheep.
I once tried to split on a habitual benefit theif. After waiting close to an hour on the ''helpline'', I was told by an officious woman in a very terse manner that ''I had better be sure of my facts as it was a very serious accusation, and I could be wasting a lot time and public money'' ! I put the phone down in disgust. They would rather clobber the weak and the vulnerable than able-bodied people who have never worked, but are always working, if you see what I mean !
If you are genuinly disabled then why hit them. Most disabled people would tell you that if you want to swap with them and they are healthy free of disability they would swop with anyone in a flash. Disability is not by choice. I have worked all my life until my MS took hold and forced me to stop working and I am now starting to get my life back together after a major scare. I will get back to work. If soneone would like my disabilities and I have their good health let me know
Christopher, I cannot understand whether you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. The person I was describing was on the dole, and still is ! In fact, she's in her 40's (yes, she !) , never worked, and erects television ariels, paints & decorates, etc. Get the picture ?
Stew, you may or may not be right about this person you know. But may I point out that not all disabilities are physical.
El Bubsio, I've known her family for over 20 years, her sisters never worked either. They're as fit as fleas, and as for erecting TV aeriels, you've got to be at the top of your game ! The local (mainly elderly) community protect her because they're getting jobs done on the cheap, at the expense of genuine contractors who pay taxes and public liability insurance.
....and as I said, she's on the dole, not sickness benefits.
Stewgwyn, I agree with you from the stand point that if you are cheating the system then you deserve to be brought to account. What we are seeing is a culture of the government hitting easy targets in all walks and branches of life. The disabled are usually genuine but again you can get the odd one. I would never wish my disabilities on anyone.
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Thank God for people like Tanni, who stand up for the disabled and are in positions powerful enough to be heard above the individuals constantly baying "benefit cheat" to every disabled person in the land. These individuals should ask themselves what is it like to be disabled, and do those disabled wish to be in such a position, or do they not think the disabled would rather contribute with pride?
One day some may find themselves in this situation. By supporting those less worse off! Could also be their future they're protecting.
Some disabled deserve every penny others are just scaming the system what I do not understand is how can someone listed disabled be on full disability with a seven seat people carrier as a mobility car for just him and his wife plus work not only full time but works over time takes home over £450 a week no poll tax no prescription changes .Its just wrong when some pensioners can't even afford food
My sister has a seven seated peoples carrier. My brother in law is disabled! After an RTA...they need the space for wheelchair and they also have young children. Plus she also does volunteer driving to hospital etc!
jasmin you are missing my point your sister needs and uses he car no problem with that at all . but why would only two people need one and why should the tax payer pay for someone earning Over £450 AND gets everything paid for . The two are totally different
Paul, get your facts straight, a motability car comes out of your benefits.
Paul I hear what your saying and I have to agree there are some anomolies within the system ,and there are cheats that need finding out but the vast majority are genuine and need that help. also as stewgwyn says mobility is taken out of benefits, I used to work with a guy simular situation but apart from the mobility and free prescriptions as he needed constant medication I dont think he got anything else like council tax.
Come the Revolution, because the way this govt are going on there will be a civil war before long.
they said that in the 80s under thatcher . it will never happen the British have no backbone
Tara, I realy hope so. stephen, I think that too, but I hope were wrong.
well said tara
The disabled have protested PEACEFULLY and SOCIABLY for very many years for the least of rights which they currently have. I have been told I'm LAZY since 1970 when I fell in a monsoon drain and fractured my skull with blood pouring out my ear. I was there because my dad was in the British Army. If nobody understands why I've been so anti-social since then, try and understand these few, SIMPLE sentences. I should have what percentage of respect for anyone and why? Why should disabled people protest peacefully when they are treated like in this news story? Because healthy people tell them to? What are they supposed to do? Starve and freeze to death and die so that healthy, hard working people get to live?
we are living in a fascist state
Osborne also wants to freeze benefits for all people over 60 and also freeze the state pension for 3 years. If this is passed then every person over 60 will not vote for the conservatives. The Autumn budget has always been in September but now this year it is in December. It is now estimated that 50% of tories will be UKIP and at the next election the conservative party together with lib dems could lose 100% of their seats and the labour about 30% so the new government will be UKIP and then they would cut the deficit in 6 months.
And do you have credible sources for these 'estimations' or is it the random number machine at work again?
you need to wake up like
Is this government for real, let them live on benefits for 6month and see how they cope, hopefully then they MIGHT change there minds