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  • 2 October 2012, 9:18

Bodies Found: Father Was IRA Blast Survivor

The man believed to have stabbed his two children to death before killing himself near Andover was a cavalryman who famously survived the 1982 IRA bombing in Hyde Park.

The bodies of Michael Pedersen, 51, of Chertsey, Surrey, and Ben Pedersen, seven, and Freya Pedersen, six, both of Ashford, Middlesex, were found on a bridleway in Newton Stacey.

Mr Pedersen was a member of the Household Cavalry unit hit by the IRA nail bomb in Hyde Park in 1982, as the unit took part in a changing of the guard ceremony.

Four soldiers and seven horses were killed in the explosion, which left Mr Pedersen's horse Sefton seriously injured.

Despite 34 separate wounds that required eight hours of surgery, the animal survived. Sefton became a symbol of the struggle against the IRA and won the Horse Of The Year - a prize Mr Pedersen picked up on the animal's behalf.

It is also being reported that Mr Pedersen and wife Erica had separated just a few weeks ago.

Hampshire Police were alerted at 6.15pm on Sunday by a member of the public who discovered the children's bodies behind a Saab 900SE convertible car.

No-one else is being sought in connection with the deaths, police said.

Meanwhile, Surrey Police said they had had "previous contact" with the Pedersen family and would be referring this contact to the Independent Police Complaints Commission for review.

The children's maternal grandfather, William Clifford, 67, from Buckinghamshire, speaking outside his daughter Erica's home in Ashford, Middlesex, said: "We are obviously devastated and what we would ask is that you respect our privacy in this matter.

"It is extremely distressing and that is all I want to say."

Hampshire Police Detective Superintendent Tony Harris said the mother of the two children had alerted Surrey Police at 7pm on Sunday after Mr Pedersen failed to return with the children at the arranged time of 5pm.

He said he believed the deaths happened at some point during the afternoon.

"A Home Office pathologist visited the scene and at this time it appears the children suffered fatal stab wounds and Mr Pedersen took his own life shortly afterwards," he said.

"They were visiting relatives in Andover, which is nearby. It was the father of Mr Pedersen, the grandfather of the children."

Describing the incident, he added: "Any scene you go to with children involved is distressing for the officers, we have given them support and they continue to receive support.

"It is very tragic, it's a dreadful loss of life, one of the most tragic cases I have had to deal with."

Mr Harris said police were in the process of tracing the family of Mr Pedersen, who had two other children from a previous relationship, when his estranged wife raised the alarm.

He added: "It's very isolated and there was a person walking yesterday who notified us to the presence of the vehicle, but I do not anticipate anyone else would have seen anything."

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Ashley Goodyer

12:26pm on 1/10/2012

may those poor little ones rip how can anyone ever harm children they are so innocent I am a grown man and reading this story brought tears to my eyes may the angels look after u

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Stephen Richards

1:00pm on 1/10/2012

This is becomomng more commonplace now, and I feel it goes hand in hand with the economic downturn making people depressed.

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Michael Hand

1:18pm on 1/10/2012

Yes bit why tale the kids.

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Mel Heatwole

2:32pm on 1/10/2012

No excuse to kill a child.

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shirley sutton

3:46pm on 1/10/2012

I'm sorry but economic downturn is no excuse to kill your kids whether you're depressed or not its no excuse

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Julie Crumpton

6:24pm on 1/10/2012

Economic downturn?......rubbish! Take yourself out then.....not your kids, that's plain evil!

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Julia Feeley

1:08pm on 1/10/2012

No excuse is acceptable for murdering children.

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Julie Crumpton

6:23pm on 1/10/2012

Julia....absolutly agree!

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ali baba

1:24pm on 1/10/2012

These sick stories of fathers or mothers comminting suicide and taking the life of there own kids are usually based on revenge rather then economics Phoenix. Sick and disturbed individuals.

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Julie Crumpton

6:22pm on 1/10/2012

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joelle cooke

8:11pm on 1/10/2012

I strongjy agree with you ali baba!!!!

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Jan N Andy Oakley-Hills

1:55pm on 1/10/2012

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Louise Smith

2:53pm on 1/10/2012

Dont judge Jan until you know the actual details

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Julia Feeley

4:31pm on 1/10/2012

Louise - there is NO EXCUSE for murdering children, whatever the "actual details" are!

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blue side

2:12pm on 1/10/2012

Such a tragedy and all so common - RIP

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David Rankin

2:16pm on 1/10/2012

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Andrea Hill

4:02pm on 1/10/2012

you awful person. you dont know the circumstances.

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Julia Feeley

4:40pm on 1/10/2012

Andrea - he didn't have the right to murder his children, whatever the circumstances!

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Adam Hale

2:24pm on 1/10/2012

This is indeed an awful tragedy! However, nobody knows the full facts and yet they are typically being the Great British hanging judge and jury! I am a father and this is awful but we do not have the right to disrespect the dead by speaking ill of them!! No matter the circumstances, three people have died. That is very sad. People in this country are just full of hatred and bitterness and so quick to judge! CHILL OUT!

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Louise Smith

2:52pm on 1/10/2012

How I agree with you Adam. Sometimes a father in the UK is pushed to such drastic and tragic situations. My own son was so, so lucky, he was granted custody of his two children. Some men are not as lucky. Children should not be used as pawns by the courts. Observation does show that British courts are nearly always on the mothers side where custody and maintenance is concerned. Though my son had full custody of his children, the mother of the children was not required to pay a penny for the children. I do not condone fathers taking their childrens lives but wonder what does lead to them doing this.

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shirley sutton

3:50pm on 1/10/2012

Sorry but there are no circumstances that warrant a parent taking the life of a child

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movvi

5:05pm on 1/10/2012

Yes, depression does terrible things to a mind, but all bad things pass. People are bound to be appalled by the violence of this story, I'm afraid.

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Julie Crumpton

6:22pm on 1/10/2012

Then kill yourself, if that's what you want....DON'T kill your children, an absolutly appalling way for little lives to end.....nope...no sympathy! And yes...I do know about depression!

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Paul Walsh

7:41pm on 1/10/2012

I've been through seperation from my daughter who is 8 now and the loss of my 1st wife to cancer and brought up my older daughter, but through all of the trouble, I never, never, ever thought of doing away with either myself or my daughters! Its a selfish, childish act that is only aimed at hurting the other parent! Sorry no sympathy from me to the father, but bags of sympathy to the people left behind to come to terms with this horrendous act!

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Penelope Flowerpot

10:55pm on 1/10/2012

How does thinking a FATHER (who is the very person those poor kids should have felt and been safe with)murdering his kids is sick and twisted make us full of hatred and bitterness @Adam?????..i think u are confusing us with the vile thing that committed this crime(who was very obviously full of bitterness and hatred)......and please don't pull the "depressed-get-out-of-jail-free-card" on us . ABSOLUTELY NO excuse to hurt children ever,fullstop!

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Paul Scott

4:39pm on 1/10/2012

Can't believe ppl on this site are saying what about the circumstances. The man has stab his children to death take minute to think of the sheer pain and terror the children went through before the died RIP Ben and Freya

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Penelope Flowerpot

10:56pm on 1/10/2012

sick,sick man shame he got missed by that explosion a few years ago..

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movvi

5:04pm on 1/10/2012

I am in no way advocating the killing of a person's own children by any means but am horrified at how many choose stabbing as a method. What a cruel, violent way to take such tiny lives.

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Hussain Ahmad

9:02pm on 1/10/2012

Well if you saw the clip on YouTube where that Russian mother dumped her two wee boys off a high rise block of flats, just because she was annoyed by them. Don't think watching as the ground rushed up to meet you was any better than getting stabbed.

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Roger Siviter

5:09pm on 1/10/2012

It simply cannot be right to take the lives of young children whatever the circumstances, however it's fairly obvious that something caused his mental deterioration and the holier than thou ghouls on this post should learn to 'button it' because they have no idea what depression can do to the mind. If anyone is culpable, I would suggest the despicable sc*m running the government and viciously wringing the economic necks of the public and driving so many people to such dark depths of dispair. If we want justice then I suggest we send Cameron and his ilk into court on a charge of treason against the people and manslaughter charges!

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7:09pm on 1/10/2012

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Penelope Flowerpot

10:57pm on 1/10/2012

oh please...no excuses!

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Jasmin Louise

6:13pm on 1/10/2012

Poor little darlings. Truely heartbreaking for all concerned. R.I.P little ones X

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lookingsotrim

6:31pm on 1/10/2012

so sad why harm the children just can't understand why anyone let alone a father would do such a wicked thing. rest in peace

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Greg Robinson

6:45pm on 1/10/2012

You horrible excuse for a man.may you burn in the fires of hell.

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Penelope Flowerpot

10:58pm on 1/10/2012

i times like this i almost wished i believed in hell

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Kerry Dodd Kandola

7:38pm on 1/10/2012

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Adj Jackson

8:50pm on 1/10/2012

Although I really feel deeply for the 2 children I find your quote of woman being scared to seperate an insult!!!!! I took my 2 kids from there mother as she was neglecting them so that blows your theory out of the water!!!! Then there are the countless mothers who stand by and watch and sometimes help their new boyfriends to beat maim and even murder the poor children so please dont Judge all fathers by the puddled one here

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Adrian Wagstaff

8:01pm on 1/10/2012

I can remember clearly seeing the front pages of the newspapers after that bombing and for anyone to just even see those images is enough to affect our minds, also. Considering he was actually in the park when it happened, I think it's not very respectful to post some of the messages some people do. Whatever the reasoning behind it all is, it's just very sad to read of such events. People are even expected to live normal lives after being in wars. I think such things as bombings are obviously likely to affect anyone involved. The images of the Hyde Park photographs inside the newspapers is stuck in my mind, as well. Before people post nasty messages about anyone they should see what happened there, first, I think.

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ali baba

8:12pm on 1/10/2012

Utter rubbish, no excuses. People who kill kids are the **** of thing of the earth. End of.

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John Davison

8:40pm on 1/10/2012

PTS doesn't neccesarily manifest itself at the time. It can make an appearance years after the event and be triggered by something quite trivial. I Know.

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Andrea Hill

9:18pm on 1/10/2012

of course it is john. ali baba you have no idea why this man did this, he obviously ill though, surely you can see that.

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gengisken1227

10:32pm on 1/10/2012

Me too Adrian, I remember scenes after the IRA bomb attack with dead and injured men and horses. I'm not excusing anything, just saying.

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Penelope Flowerpot

10:59pm on 1/10/2012

it really dont matter why...the fact that he did it makes him lower than low

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Mary Knibbs

8:21pm on 1/10/2012

such acts are malice and spite, it is abnormal to murder your own children. My Father like many other young men fought in the last war and witnessed many times, worse atrocities. It did not turn him or his comrades into murderers What on earth any Man or Woman thinks they gain in such vile acts is beyond me. Poor little mites robbed of their lives by someone who should protect them.

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Julie Crumpton

9:04pm on 1/10/2012

Agree

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Penelope Flowerpot

11:00pm on 1/10/2012

exactly absolutely NO excuse

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Greg Robinson

9:08pm on 1/10/2012

I'm sorry I don't buy into the depression makes people do crazy things.this man is evil.these children trusted their dad.he took a knife to them.pleas don't tell me that depression caused it.

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Andrea Hill

9:19pm on 1/10/2012

dont be so ridiculous, he not evil.but ill.

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Penelope Flowerpot

11:01pm on 1/10/2012

@andrea so what if hes ill? MANY,MANY 1000s of ppl are ill and they don't do this.....why would u make excuses for such a vile act? whats wrong with you?

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ali baba

9:22pm on 1/10/2012

Sickening that some people are justifying this mans actions, incomprehensible.

Score: 11
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Penelope Flowerpot

11:05pm on 1/10/2012

100% agree,there are some sick people out there,you have to ask yourself "what kind of person would make excuses"? probably just the trolls doing the rounds again trying to upset ppl who care about the innocent. ..i don't a approve of the cry baby attitude of "its not their fault" so many do godders have. NO excuse!

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Bernadette Griffin

11:34pm on 1/10/2012

Please feel free to criticise me as much as you want to I am not a parent however this article brings to mind a comment a friend made once - she said you have to be really desperate to take your children with you I wonder how desperate this man had become - a horrible frame of mind to have to live with. Deep sympathies to the family.

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