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  • 5 January 2013, 4:20

Church Of England Says Gay Men Can Be Bishops

Gay clergy will be allowed to become bishops if they are in civil partnerships and promise to be celibate, the Church of England has announced.

The Bishop of Norwich, the Rt Revd Graham James, said it would be "unjust" to stop homosexual clergy becoming bishops as long as they were living "fully in conformity with the Church's teaching on sexual ethics".

In a statement on behalf of the House of Bishops he said: "The House has confirmed that clergy in civil partnerships, and living in accordance with the teaching of the Church on human sexuality, can be considered as candidates for the episcopate."

The decision has provoked an angry response from traditionalists in the Church of England who say the move is "divisive" and "a worrying development".

Those in civil partnerships who promised to remain celibate are already allowed to become clergy, but the decision made by the House of Bishops last month extends this to bishops.

The issue of homosexual bishops has caused a rift in the church since 2003 after Dr Jeffrey John, who was openly in a gay relationship, was appointed Bishop of Reading.

Despite stating that his 27-year relationship with the Revd Grant Holmes was celibate, he was criticised by some in the church because it was felt he had not publicly repented his past sexual activities.

Dr John, currently Dean of St Albans, stepped down from the role after considerable pressure.

Welcoming the new announcement, Peter Tatchell, the gay human rights campaigner, said: "Any move to lift the ban on gay bishops in civil partnerships is a welcome move towards greater equality within the church."

He added: "I hope this means the way is now open for Jeffrey John to be appointed as a bishop."

Ruth Hunt, director of public affairs for gay rights campaigners Stonewall, said: "We're sure many Anglicans will be happy to hear of the Church's latest epiphany on gay clergy, although many lesbians will be disappointed that they remain unable to serve as bishops."

But others are against the move. Rev Rod Thomas, of the Church's evangelical network, Reform, said: "If someone were to be appointed who was in a civil partnership, that would be a very divisive step, both within England and across the Anglican Communion."

"Although the Church says they would be required to declare that they are celibate as part of their appointment, the fact is that this is unenforceable.

He said: "To appoint someone in a civil partnership as a bishop would be seen by the world at large as appointing someone who is in an active gay relationship, and undermine the Church's teaching on the exclusiveness of sex within marriage."

The decision comes after the General Synod controversially rejected proposals to allow women bishops in November.

 

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16 comments

Mick Daniel

7:30pm on 4/1/2013

Bigots and homophobes and now complete idiots. Disband this sorid organisation

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stevie may

7:52pm on 4/1/2013

Whose bashing the bishop?

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TIM x

11:15pm on 4/1/2013

We have had our differences many times on politics but just for once that was priceless!! Lol lol

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Chris Robinson

5:50am on 6/1/2013

The same people who are 'caressing the curate'.

James R McCulloch

8:18pm on 4/1/2013

How can two people in love with one another a same sex relationship "consummate" a marriage. Can someone tell me in plain English please

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stevie may

9:39pm on 4/1/2013

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El Bubsio

11:27pm on 4/1/2013

Well, the dictionary defines consummate in this context as - "Make (a marriage or relationship) complete by having sexual intercourse.." If you need someone to explain how 2 men or 2 ladies do that, I suggest you ask a grown up.

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Robinson56Chris

1:29pm on 5/1/2013

There are various ways to do this, James. When a man loves another man they can kiss and touch and this counts as foreplay which can stimulate feelings of an emotional and physical nature. They can then proceed to a more intimate stage such as mutual masturbation and/or penetration in a suitable orifice of their choosing. The same applies to when a woman loves another woman. Is that plain enough English for you?

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Robinson56Chris

1:31pm on 5/1/2013

But then it's little different to how a heterosexual couple would do it. AND, like heterosexual couples, they don't HAVE to be 'in love'. There are leaflets, you know.

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Phil A

8:28pm on 4/1/2013

They should look up the meaning of the word cekibate in the dictionary. It means to remain unmarried, it does not mean to refrain from having sex.

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stevie may

9:42pm on 4/1/2013

Cekibate?

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happymike CHESTER

8:43pm on 4/1/2013

M/T Churches all lost faith.

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Name witheld

10:06pm on 4/1/2013

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IAN H

10:21pm on 4/1/2013

Leviticus 20:13 ........."'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

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El Bubsio

11:24pm on 4/1/2013

One of the most misquoted verses of the bible. The word abomination comes from the Hebrew, evah, which means ceremonially unclean. When you also consider that it comes from a time when the Jewish nation was trying to expand, you can see why it was considered as such. G@y people can't procreate. Nothing is actually mentioned about divine judgement. Also that same chapter mentions several other things as being just as 'terrible', including sowing your fields with 2 kinds of crops and wearing clothes composed of 2 or more different fabrics. So, unless you've never worn anything but single fabric clothes, that pretty much makes you a huge hypocrite.

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IAN H

9:49am on 5/1/2013

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snape

10:24pm on 4/1/2013

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herewegoagain10

10:45pm on 4/1/2013

All this from an organisation which is supposed to offer spiritual guidance and set us all a good example. I rather think the whole lot needs cleansing and a return to the basics. Maybe it needs a bolt of lightning?

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Bernadette Griffin

12:02am on 5/1/2013

Oh but women were barred - rather misogynist really.

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David Wragg

6:07am on 5/1/2013

This is rank hypocrisy and has come out of nowhere without discussion or debate. I agree with herewegoagain - a bolt of lightning might do the trick!

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Mike MCDonough

10:15am on 5/1/2013

Not on the same planet. Is it any wonder people are leaving the church.

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LucienSolo1

10:37am on 5/1/2013

Really ...do we constantly have to put up with this nonsense from a dead institution? This group of silly old people are now insignificant, so who they allow to wear a different coloured fancy frock is not important. They only have themselves to blame for their demise, with their silly infighting about trivia. It is time now for the formal separation of church and state. This homophobic, bigoted bunch of deluded people, are in no position to be arbiters of the nation's morals. Kick their bishops out of the Lord's and stop pandering to them. This institutioin is almost dead now and the sooner it is dead completely, the better it will be for us.

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Name witheld

11:58am on 5/1/2013

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Robinson56Chris

1:38pm on 5/1/2013

We don't need this or any other religious organisation and certainly not to have any of its members sitting in positions of power and influence or managing a huge, wealthy property portfolio. If people want to worship a god, it's a personal matter. Surely they do not need some intermediary, dressed in mediaeval finery, to stand between them and their deity to interpret what it all means? Then we can use the billions of pounds tied up in these churches/religions and use that, alongside the untold wealth of big business, the banks and wealthy individuals to create a fair, decent, fully employed, highly-skilled, higly-educated society where people's health needs are catered for properly.

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Brian Quinn

2:12pm on 5/1/2013

Religion is so outdated. It's time all religions of the world were disbanded.

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