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'Drunk Tanks' Could Solve Drinking Problem
'Drunk tanks' could be introduced into Britain as the Government seeks "innovative" solutions to tackle public drunkenness.
Widely used across Europe and the US, 'drunk tanks' are used to keep the intoxicated off the streets while they sober up.
On a visit to a hospital in the North East, the Prime Minister is set to criticise the "reckless" drunken behaviour of the "irresponsible" minority that costs the health service about £2.7bn a year.
"Every night, in town centres, hospitals and police stations across the country, people have to cope with the consequences of alcohol abuse, and the problem is getting worse," David Cameron will say.
"Over the last decade we've seen a frightening growth in the number of people - many underage - who think it's acceptable for people to get drunk in public in ways that wreck lives, spread fear and increase crime.
"This is one of the scandals of our society and I am determined to deal with it."
According to the Government, £1bn of the cost of drunkenness and alcohol abuse to the NHS is seen in the increased burden faced by accident and emergency services and alcohol was the primary factor in 200,000 hospital admissions in 2010/11.
Mr Cameron will say the Government will set out how it intends to help emergency services "rise to the challenge" in a forthcoming Alcohol Strategy.
"Whether it's the police officers in A and E that have been deployed in some hospitals, the booze buses in Soho and Norwich, or the drunk tanks used abroad, we need innovative solutions to confront the rising tide of unacceptable behaviour," he will say.
"This isn't just about more rules and regulation. It's about responsibility and a sense of respect for others."
The Prime Minister will also suggest that bars, supermarkets and the drinks industry must do more to ensure that responsible drinking becomes more than "just a slogan".
'Drunk tanks' have been mooted before - for example a 2009 report by for Scottish ministers reached similar conclusions.
At the time they were used in Aberdeen and Inverness to prevent intoxicated people needing to be taken to police stations if there is no one else to look after them.
However, the research indicated they could cost between £20,000 and £200,000 a year to operate as drunk people need to be monitored.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) also called on the then-government to introduce such a scheme in December 2010, arguing it would help alleviate the burden on the police.
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Christine Ellis
it is not just a northern problem it is country wide and stop trying to label people that is plain snobbery and unemployment is highest in the capital LONDON which last time i looked oon a map was down SOUTH

Edgar Beckett
You want to cut public drunkeness Prime minister ? Easy ---- Three strokes of a cane, The problem will vanish overnight. But of course, you wont, will you ? it would be too easy.

Phylip de la Maziere
Hers a simple answer make landlords more accountable there is already legislation in place that says a landlord should not serve any more booze to someone who has had enough, but like every thing else its the money in the till that takes over and then our Police who have to deal with these individuals also increase the price of a unit of booze

pfmartin
what is the fine for Drunk and disorderly, now. Make it a real hefty fine, and take away the booze money for a while. A drunk tank will just be like an asbo, a badge of honour to display to their mates, on the next binge.And why is alcohol free beer, more expensive than the real stuff.

sjc
Stopping supermarkets selling cheap booze would help, making pubs put up there prices, will only make them do less buisness....it's the cheap drinking in the house b4 they hit the town, thats the problem......

julia harrison
That's right, blame the northerners again!!! Because noone gets drunk down south do they?! And while ur at it, continue to increase the north & south divide, take away peoples benefits while they are trying to find work & take away free school meals, take away benefits for college students, start messing about with the nhs etc. But u go on holiday 5 times a year and enjoy urself!!!! What a nightmare david cameron is!!!!

Robert Sheldon
who blamed the north then?

Alun Brookfield
Why should I, as a responsible drinker, be penalised twice - once by having to pay through my taxes for police, ambulance and hospital costs, then a second time through having to pay more for my occasional bottle of wine - for the irresponsibility of others. Surely the answer is not to raise the prices at the till, but to hit these people (and these people only) where it hurts - in their pockets. Send them the bill, I say, for the real costs of police, ambulance, hospital, lawyer and court time, which must be at least £1000 for every offence. Fines will work if they reflect the actual cost to us taxpayers.

bobh_385
Penalising the vast majority of sensible drinkers via higher taxes or minimum pricing is completely wrong but typical of a government response.There many factors involved and a knee-jerk reaction is not whats needed.Perhaps giving the youngsters something to look forward to, like gainful employment for example, might help.Also stopping the policy of pubs/clubs in the same area should help at closing time along with scrapping the tied house system so community pubs could sell beer cheaper and the older generations will keep the younger ones in check.

Andy Cane
Start taking responsibility for your actions Have a set charge if you have to go to A and E just because you have had too much Stop serving people who are drunk or you loose your licence Set alcohol limits on beer and lager No two for one offers Start taking responsibility

Christine Ellis
oh yes great even more ideas from America !!!!!! Why do the government think that the USA has got it right!!! Do they not see what everyone else does ! surely we need to do what is best for britain and maybe change the opening times of pubs and stop selling cheap alcohol in shops all day long if there is limited access then limited time to drink maybe ????? its no use putting prices up in pubs cos that will only lead to closure and more people drinking at home and in the streets.

antfrog2000
Soon there will be a legal limit on how much you can drink before you are aloud to walk home. Police will breathalise you as you leave the pub. If you are over the legal walking limit you will be thrown in the slammer. I really dont think its cheap booze thats the problem. Cigarettes have soared in price, yet even kids still manage to afford them. If somethings available, people will always find the money the buy it.

Oliver McEvoy
As usual there is a real fear about tackling this 'problem' in a direct manner, time after time politicians peddle their 'solutions' as sorting the problem out, but they are merely tinkering around the edge. A) Deal with the tsunami wave of ridiculously cheap alcohol available from supermarkets and wine stores. B) Ban outright special deals in clubs city centre & towncentre pubs & clubs. C) Have times of opening & closeing of licensed premises more carefully monitored. D) Only sell alcohol & cigerettes through licensed premises ie the original off license system as used in France, Germany etc. Then and only then will we witness some sort of resolution to this disgusting state of affairs and save many of our population from alchololism and misery, poverty and an early demise.
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Mike Drouin
i dont agree with all your comments so the americans dont drink untill they are 21 ? one small point is why on earth areGARAGES ALLOWED TO SELL BOOZE ,hopefully its so they get drunk crash the car into a tree and kill themselves but its not as simple as that

Mike Drouin
at least the current goverment are trying to do something about this awful situation ,the previous tjmewasters attaked cigarettes ,but i have always said alcohol was by far the bigger problem .people dont go wild and dangerous by smoking a cigarrete drunckeness is everywhwere and in every class and age .i always try to teach younger ones how stupid it is to get drunk ,waste all your hard earned money (that one dosnt work with those on the dole ) be ill killing your self slowly from within being obnoxious and not remembering anything the next day . its not clever .i wish you all the luck in the world mr Cameron !!!

tagliatellius
This is just softening up of public opinion before they hit us with a massive rise in taxation on alcohol, Cameron and his chums should lead by example and close their twenty odd subsidised drinking dens in the Houses Of Parliament, but they won't, the hypocrites.

Buzz Teddy Head
Ok, heres a radical idea. Why not develop safe alternative drugs, that actually enhance mental faculties, create feelings of empathy and warmth rather than reducing people to their base reptilian instincts and inhibit neural functioning. If the government didn't panic and ban every new recreational drug that appeared, but rather tested it for saftey, with a thought to eventually marketing it, I'm quite sure we would have the equivalent to Huxleys soma and a much more functional society.

Graham Whittingham
It`s not rocket science, drink to obvilion etc emerencey services called out to "assist " YOU PAY " for call out , assistance , secure place to sleep it off. It will make you think twice about getting legless as your pocket will get hit and you get to clean up the mess you probably have made How much...£100.00.

nashy1964
we fine people for drunk and disorderly but its such a small amount they just go out and do it again . hit the drunks harder with larger fines very much larger and then lets see them get so off thier faces . you cant blame supermarkets as its the parents that buy the booze there and let thier kids drink it or steal it from them so fineing the parents would be a good option and maybe force them into stopping thier obnoxious drunken kids from having drink at home. target those that are causeing the problem not the drinkers that drink responsibly.

tagliatellius
I just heard on BBC local radio, a presenter reporting on the Houses Of Parliament own label champagne, wine etc., is there another place of work in Great Britain with subsidised drinking establishments? Is this why our country is in such a state, our elected representatives are all rat-ar£ed.






Ben Ralph
3:07am on 15/2/2012
Stop supermarkets selling cheap alcohol, stop producers making chemically enhanced high percentage alcohol and stop bars from doing stupid drink promotions that encourage drunk people to drink more and quicker and bring in bigger fines for bars serving people who are obviously too drunk to know better. Simple. Simple.
Edgar Beckett
9:07am on 15/2/2012
In fact blame everybody and punish everybody except the drunks themselves. I bet you vote for the Lib/Lab/Cons