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Greggs hails 'pasty tax' U-turn

Bakery chain Greggs is celebrating following the Government's U-turn on the unpopular "pasty tax".
Chancellor George Osborne caved in on his plans to charge the 20% rate of VAT on hot baked snacks such as pasties and pies.
The climbdown, which followed a campaign to scrap the tax that was supported by 300,000 signatures, saw Greggs shares rise 8%.
Greggs chief executive Ken McMeikan said: "This is fantastic news for the customer more than anything.
"If we had to put up prices by 20% in the current marketplace when consumers are having a very difficult time we expected there would be an impact on sales but we don't know what it would have been.
"I think the Government deserves to be applauded."
The U-turn means the 20% tax will now be charged only on cooked pies and pasties that are kept hot, but not those that are still warm after coming from the oven.
Under previous plans in the Budget, savouries were to be charged VAT until they had cooled to ambient temperature.
But the pasty industry - including Greggs - claimed the plans were unworkable and marched on Downing Street to deliver a petition.
The furore proved a major embarrassment to the Government, which faced allegations that the hike would hit the poorest hardest.
The tax as previously planned would have hit Greggs' savouries range, which accounts for about a third of its sales. Some £30 million was wiped off Greggs' share price following the Budget in March.
The wider industry warned that the tax could cost at least 2,000 jobs.
Mr McMeikan said the new rules had cleared up anomalies in the tax system and would mean bakers who kept their savoury products hot would now not be able to avoid paying VAT.
He added: "It's a much clearer, workable way forward. We are very pleased for our customers."
The Treasury also scrapped plans for 20% VAT on static caravans and will instead charge 5% from April 2013 rather than October.
Graham Stuart, Tory MP for Beverley and Holderness, said: "We are delighted. It is great news for the manufacturing industry and also for the park and coastal communities all around the country."
The U-turns on pasties and caravans, which in total will cost the Treasury some £70 million, won praise from coalition backbenchers - some of whom rebelled against the Government in the Commons - but were mocked by Labour.
Shadow Treasury minister Chris Leslie said: "They are not U-turning out of the kindness of their hearts, it is because they are being forced to do so.
"What a chaotic way to run a country. How on earth can you have a budget process that unravels in a day when you've got this kind of shambolic business?"
A Treasury spokesman said: "The Budget announced a consultation on a change to VAT on hot takeaway food, designed to remove inconsistency and ambiguity in the system and level the playing field across the takeaway food market.
"After extensive engagement we have improved the policy, addressing practical concerns, ensuring that the new regime could be as simple as possible to apply."
what do you think?

Stuart Harley
...WHERE ARE ALL OUR TAXES SPENT ????????

Roberta Grieve
On the useless fat cats in government

Criss Nash
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Roberta Grieve
If suddenly there no food at all, we would all die. Food of whatever kind is an absolute necessity to sustain life . Therefore FOOD SHOULD NOT BE TAXED.-------Jimmy@Brighton

EQINOX187 .
I agree with you compleatly however the fact is as you pointed out food is a necessity so they can tax it and get away with it because they know people have no choice but to pay the extra tax

Jo Brierley
Not all food is taxed

EQINOX187 .
@ Jo When you go buy your shoping regardless of that you buy be it a tin of beans or a pizza or a slab of meat or your cornflakes or your fruit it all has VAT added to it

Matt K
@eqinox187....do your research NOT all food has VAT added, only foodstuffs categorised as luxury items (cakes, biscuits, chocolate etc)

Lee Bennett
chance for a nice bit of insider dealing for the tories here.Greggs shares fall ,the rich tory boys buy a few .Then Georgy boy announces scrapping the tax eh voila the shares jump 8% .............i wonder.????

Mary Steel
Who wants a lukewarm pasty so as to avoid paying 20% extra,, thats the idea, to have a HOT product, whole thing is rediculous beyond belief.

Jo Brierley
I wouldnt eat a bacteria riddled item thats luke warm - I would rather have a hot one and pay tax

Paul Rowe
Common sense has prevailed following the public outcry on this, well done to all those who supported the cry for no VAT on our take away grub...

Brian Holmes
Paul, read it again. You ARE going to pay VAT on a hot pastie. There has been no change of heart. IT'S A CON.

herewegoagain10
Sorry but this is not what it seems. do you go into a bakery and ask them to cook you a pie or pasty and then wait half an hour while it bakes? No,you expect a pie from the hot cabinet, which is still subject to VAT,so you can eat it and go back to work or whatever. This government treats us like fools,

john lonsdale
Hi Stuart Harley 10:47 AM on 29/5/2012 we need these taxes to pay for MP's expences. ONLY TORIES WOULD THINK OF THIS TAX JUST LIKE THE POLL TAX.

Michael Hawkins
200 + additional taxes under labour most you do not know you are paying - tories are amateur at raising taxes compared with the tax and spend - borrow and spend policies under blair brown

Michael Hawkins
Poll tax would save me a fortune - I am in favour bring it back

Michael Hawkins
No different to labour who ran the country by public opinion to remain in power rather dealing with the real problems

Mikel roi
That is not strictly true. They bowed to peer businessmen) pressure - nothing more! Read the comments about the alledged profiteering by Greegs anyway ...

denis parsons
Greggs are always increasing their prices.I have experience of this.I regularly buy my snacks there,and every day it's a different price roll or pasty,or mexican chicken oval bite(delicious) with cream strawberry tart.The mc is £2.10p now,next week it will have risen, believe me.Tarts and sausage rolls have also increased.Do you know why? ......I t's the only bl....dy Greggs in town.

Fleur Black
we have a PoundBakers in Halifax with everything at £1...so figure out how much Greggs are ripping you off.

Lee Bennett
The tories patting themselves on the back for getting shot of something that should never have been brought in at all.They are beyond a joke.No wonder they are 11 points behind in the polls.This is one of the many reasons why

robert
V.A.T. Value added tax.Supposed to be added to luxury items.Since when has food been a luxury item.Oh i know,since Cam & Clegg came on scene.

Annette Oakes
is a pasty a luxury food? since the con dems came to power thats when it became a luxury to eat..stop the subsidy to food in the commons, let them pay the correct price, the same as everyone else in this i'm alright jack society.. liars and cheats are running this country, shame on the lot of them

Gavin Nellis
In Middlesbrough Greggs is a fancy dining restaurant and they only go there for a treat

Jo Brierley
Its about it being a hot takeaway food item not a luxury item

peter
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Gillian Stafford
I often get the impression that strolling around stuffing your face with with a Greggs/McDonalds product is some sort if rite of passage which if not experienced by your child by 15 months old equates to poor parenting !!

denis parsons
The U-turn means the 20% tax will now be charged only on cooked pies and pasties that are kept hot, but not those that are still warm after coming from the oven. Ha,ha,ha,ha.I'll have some baloney please. Fact:Strawberry tarts have gone up by more than 50%From 48p to 93p in 8 months.I think that's 95% unless my maths are wrong.






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9:31am on 29/5/2012
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