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Shot PCs: Police Investigate 'Family Feud'
Greater Manchester Police have said a 'family feud' forms part of their investigation into the shooting of two PCs on Tuesday.
But at a press conference Assistant Chief Constable Garry Shewan played down suggestions of gang warfare.
He said: "We have two feuding criminal families and we need to investigate the role that feud took in determining the outcome that we've seen in the last six months.
"But I wouldn't portray this as gang warfare on the streets of Manchester. This is a feud between two criminal families and it is being investigated as part of the investigation into the shocking events on Tuesday.
"To portray this as 'we're in the middle of a gang war' would be to overestimate what we've got here."
Mr Shewan also revealed police had issued a number of 'threat to life' notices since the death of David Short who was killed in a gun and grenade attack at his home in Manchester in August.
But he warned against jumping to conclusions regarding the number of notices issued as they were simply the start of a process to allow police to assess the seriousness of the threat.
"Since August 10 and the murder of David Short, Greater Manchester Police have been working closely with the community and intelligence officers," he said.
"We issued a number of 'threat to life' notices to individuals associated with this investigation and with the feud we've been investigating.
"A threat to life notice is the beginning of a conversation about how best to understand the level of threat.
"To read anything into the number of threat to life notices would be meaningless as you have to understand the start of those conversations".
Police had earlier warned there may be more grenades in the area where two policewomen were shot dead.
Greater Manchester Chief Constable Sir Peter Fahy, said it was not clear whether there are more explosive devices at the scene where PCs Nicola Hughes and Fiona Bone were attacked on Tuesday.
The pair were shot dead after going to an empty council house in Abbey Gardens in Hattersley to investigate an apparently routine burglary.
Police have confirmed that a gun has been recovered. It has also emerged that one of the officers' tasers was found on the ground at the scene.
Witnesses reported that a number of shots had been fired and a grenade thrown after the officers arrived.
Sir Peter said the area was still cordoned off and a "threat" to officers remained.
"We are not confident that we have recovered all the grenades, we don't know for certain, so we've made it clear to our officers that the threat is still there. I would want that to be the message," he told a news conference.
Detectives have been trying to piece together the final moments of the dead officers, with forensic teams scouring the area where they were killed for clues.
Home Secretary Theresa May visited Greater Manchester Police headquarters for a two-hour briefing by senior officers conducting the investigation into the deaths.
She described the killings as "savage acts of pure brutality" but repeated that Government policy was that police should not be routinely armed.
Thousands of tributes poured in for the pair on Wednesday, including from the Queen, and the force held a minute's silence in their memory at 11am, almost precisely 24 hours after the attack.
Dale Cregan, 29, is still being questioned over the deaths of the two police officers, and in connection with the murders of Mr Short and his son Mark Short who died earlier this year.
A second man was detained in Hattersley on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder on Wednesday. He has been named as 28-year-old Stephen Garvey.
It has also emerged Cregan was held at gun point after walking into a police station.
Counter staff hit a panic button then asked him to go back outside Hyde police station in Greater Manchester, where he was confronted by armed officers who had been scrambled to the scene.
He arrived at the station in a blue BMW around an hour after the officers had been attacked.
PC Bone's family have issued a statement paying tribute to "a wonderful daughter, sister, partner and parent".
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what do you think?

nick
I agree it was terrible what happened - but the response will be to flood the investigation with resources with no expense spared or even considered - if it were 2 members of the public that this had happened to the reaction will be considerably less which is where the problem lies - this situation which has been building up over a long period of time with gangs fighting each other and has not been resourced properly by the police and has got out of control

Brian Mckeown
The police have to lay down their lives each day so why should'nt the investigation be thorough we need to catch these evil gits. Secondly its the fault of our Tory wet in charge and that woman we call a home secretary who have reduced the effectiveness s of the police in this country

Peter Coates
Which incompetent prat sent these young ladies to do the job of an experienced law enforcer. Disgraceful.

Para999Tom
sorry to say but one with 5 years experience and the evolution of equality. unfortunately they would be classed as " experienced law enforcers"

Leila Sheikh
How does having more experience prevent you from being shot?

Ray Stoner
Where can you obtain grenades; they should all be in the possession of the armed forces. Track down the source. Fahy says they have recovered some of the grenades. Presumably they all have serial numbers or can be recognised by shape , size etc and therefor the manufacturer can be recognised and asked how come they managed to get into the hands of the public. Are military arsenals missing any?

Mark Hussey
Most likely ex ira stock .

Lorgar Aurelian
The grenades are Serbian in origin they believe.

Brian Mckeown
Theresa May talks out of her ass she and Cameron have done nothing but undermine the police and reduce numbers. Unfortunately on this country we have many low life's who should be punished and in this case the death penalty should be enforced. The low life of this country have no respect and the police should be armed (but trained) to a greater extent than they are. Cameron and his clowns quite rightly get booed when in front of the public they are turning the Uk into a dump. Bring back the death penalty, toughen up on immigration laws and get more officers trained with weapons,

rfbevan
Peter Coates, these 'young ladies' were 'experienced law enforcers' - trained police officers, whatever their gender, are trained police officers - get real and join the 21st century please.

Emma Barrett
women shouldn't be doing jobs where a strong physical presence is needed. i.e police, armed forces, fire brigade

Para999Tom
yes emma but it was supposidly an empty house ,are you saying women shouldn't be sent to any offence committed just in case. also remember cases in the past where male police officers have suffered i.e derek bird. being in the emergency services myself there is absolutely noway of knowing an incident could prove violent beforehand unless someone gives information it could be.

blue side
Para999Tom valid point I had been critical of sending two females but on reflection a difficult one. I do however understand the area is deemed 'Apache territory' but then a bullet or grenade knows no gender.

krafty81
Tom are you the gentleman that write the books about being a paramedic?

Para999Tom
ahh that would be blood,sweat and tea ;-)

Chris Robinson
Yes, these shootings were terrible, and drug crime is on the increase, often aggravated by poverty - it's easier to earn big money selling drugs etc. But, I'd like to highlight a brilliant victory of the South African miners' strike at Lonmin. Management have caved in and given a 22% pay rise (after police had murdered 34 pickets). Now other miners (tens of thousands of them) are coming out in other companies. Funny how it got buried by our capitalist media. Wonder if they don't like to give publicity to workers' victories because they don't want to encourage strikes here? Oh, perish the thought!

Lorgar Aurelian
Irrevelant. Can't see how a strike in S.A. has any bearing on this horrible incident. You just want to toe the party line as usual Commissar Robinson. Keep barmy politics out of it.





James Henderson
12:29am on 20/9/2012
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