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  • 17 April 2012, 9:40

Breivik: I'd kill them all again

Norwegian gunman Anders Breivik has insisted he would massacre 77 people all over again, calling his rampage the most "spectacular" attack by a nationalist militant since the Second World War.

Reading a prepared statement in court, the anti-Muslim extremist hit out at Norwegian and European governments for embracing immigration and multiculturalism. He claimed to be speaking as a commander of an anti-Islam militant group he called the Knights Templar - a group that prosecutors say does not exist.

Maintaining he acted out of "goodness, not evil" to prevent a wider civil war, Breivik vowed, "I would have done it again."

Pressed by prosecutors to explain what he meant, he compared his attacks to the US dropping atomic bombs on Japan to bring the Second World War to an end.

"They did it for something good, to prevent further war," Breivik said.

Breivik has five days to explain why he set off a bomb in Oslo's government district last July, killing eight people, and then gunned down 69 others, mostly teenagers, at a Labor Party youth camp outside the Norwegian capital. He denies criminal guilt, saying he was acting in self-defence, and claims the targets were part of a conspiracy to "deconstruct" Norway's cultural identity.

"The attacks on July 22 were a preventive strike. I acted in self-defence on behalf of my people, my city, my country," he said as he finished his statement, in essence a summary of the 1,500-page manifesto he posted online before the attacks. "I therefore demand to be found innocent of the present charges."

He compared Norway's Labor Party youth wing to the Hitler Youth and called their annual summer gathering an "indoctrination" camp. But he later told prosecutors he would have preferred to attack a conference of Norwegian journalists instead, but was not able to carry out that "operation."

Breivik's testimony was delayed briefly after one of the five judges hearing the case was dismissed for his comments online the day after the attack - comments that said Breivik deserves the death penalty. Lawyers on all sides had requested that lay judge Thomas Indreboe be taken off the trial, saying the comments violated his impartiality. He was replaced by backup lay judge Elisabeth Wisloeff.

Norway does not have the death penalty. If found mentally sane - the key issue to be decided in the trial - Breivik could face a maximum 21-year prison sentence or an alternate custody arrangement that would keep him locked up as long as he is considered a menace to society.

According to Breivik, Western Europe was gradually taken over by "Marxists and multiculturalists" after the Second World War because it didn't have "anti-communist" leaders like US senator Joseph McCarthy. The senator dominated the early 1950s with his sensational but unproven charges of Communist subversion in high government circles in the US

"But even McCarthy was too moderate," Breivik said.

Judge Wenche Elisabeth Arntzen repeatedly interrupted Breivik, asking him to keep his statement short.

"It is critically important that I can explain the reason and the motive" for the massacre, Breivik replied.

A lawyer representing victim's families, also interrupted Breivik, saying they were concerned that he was turning the trial into a platform to profess his extremist views.

Her remarks prompted the judge to again urge Breivik to wrap it up. But Breivik replied if he was not allowed to continue he might not speak at all.

He warned that Europe was heading toward a civil war between "nationalists and internationalists." He said he was inspired by al Qaida's success, and praised Europeans suspected of right-wing extremist attacks. They included Peter Mangs, a Swede suspected of shootings against immigrants in 2010 and three Germans - Uwe Boehnhardt, Uwe Mundlos and Beate Zschaepe - suspected in the killings of eight people of Turkish origin, a Greek man and a German policewoman between 2000 and 2007.

Asked why he started crying in court on Monday, when prosecutors showed an anti-Muslim film that Breivik posted on YouTube before the attacks, he said: "I was thinking about Norway and Europe, which are ruled by politicians and journalists killing our country. I was thinking that my country is dying."

Breivik insisted that the Knights Templar network exists, with two other cells in Norway, though he said his description of it in the manifesto was too "pompous." The initiation rites and medals of honour he described were ideas, rather than existing traditions, he said.

Families of the victims were upset at his evidence.

"I think it's important to underline that we don't view Breivik as a politician in this matter. He is a mass murderer," Trond Henry Blattmann, whose 17-year-old son was killed on Utoya, said afterwards..

Even his lawyers concede that Breivik's self-defence defence is unlikely to succeed and said the main thing for them was to convince the court that Breivik is not insane.

One official psychiatric examination found him legally insane while another reached the opposite conclusion. The judges panel must decide whether to send him to prison or into compulsory psychiatric care.

what do you think?

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Alan Pollard

12:50pm on 17/4/2012

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Olly Olly

3:31pm on 17/4/2012

He cannot be sane.

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EQINOX187 .

6:53am on 18/4/2012

cannot be sane or simply playing insane to get of easy. I have seen it before when people do something and then act insane or disturbed so they got of lightly for there acts

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nashy1964

9:57am on 19/4/2012

i can act crazy but would that make me crazy i dont think so. this guy is as sane as the next man

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Akzo Detomaso

4:17pm on 17/4/2012

people like this person make a mockery of the justice system, he should not be given any publicity, no visual reference, no sound, no access to media where he can carry on his evil. Any publicity is helping him in defiling the memories of the people he murdered. Even this post is an extension of that, even though it is morally against him. What is the world coming to when murder and misery is newsworthy. This is why I don't buy newspapers or watch the news, who in their right mind would watch hate, corruption and evil? Sanity is a matter of perspective, you listen long enough to the insane and they will convince you you are mad and they are not, it's just a matter of time.

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james mcbride

5:01pm on 17/4/2012

hi i agree they should of kept this out of the media and that of the fool in france. the media/govts hopes it will distance ppl from the far right groups but i feel the reverse is true. some of what he says is right. we have too many immigrants from 3rd world countries in the eu and they are lowering living standards and wages. pretty much common sense and not racist atall.

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nashy1964

9:54am on 19/4/2012

without news how the hell would you know whats going on out in the world and how would you be able to help stop things if you bury your head in the sand. with all the islamic nutters out there doing what this guy is doing who are you to say that his rights are any different to those of other people

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9:41am on 24/4/2012

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9:44am on 24/4/2012

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Beverley Page

4:23pm on 17/4/2012

Why does anyone need a gun,if there were never any guns made,there would be no dead people

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Windows Live User

4:49pm on 17/4/2012

More people killed by cars

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james mcbride

5:02pm on 17/4/2012

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William Wright

5:02pm on 17/4/2012

The mind boggles

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james mcbride

5:08pm on 17/4/2012

drugs and guns dont mix. concentrate on drugs more than banning guns esp in usa.

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james mcbride

5:09pm on 17/4/2012

drugs and guns dont mix, concentrate on drugs policy more in the usa rather than guns.

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Akzo Detomaso

6:54pm on 17/4/2012

That's a naive statement Beverley, people who kill with a gun would kill regardless, a gun is a tool like a knife, arrow, rope, a stone or bare hands, When used by a killer anything will do as long as it kills. Its not the gun that kills, it's the person pulling the trigger.

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Matthew Stoner

9:57pm on 17/4/2012

Sorry Beverley, but what bubble do you live in?......

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Michael Booth

5:47pm on 19/4/2012

Ermmmmmmmmmm? What about Stone AgeAxes, Swords, the Long Bow. Man has always found a way to kill his fellow man.. Beverly

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9:46am on 24/4/2012

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james mcbride

4:59pm on 17/4/2012

A HORRIBLE MAN, the politicians are to blame for probs in europe. integration of 3rd world immigrants has lowered wages, put pressure on housing, increased social tensions, lowered living standards. how many more fools like this will surface due to bad govt policies which favour corporations, banks, and top stock listed firms. politicians in the eu have not got a clue. we had that other fool in france recently. perhaps the political parties would be better off acting in peoples interests and not that of theirs or corporate think-tanks.

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10:35pm on 23/4/2012

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10:37pm on 23/4/2012

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james mcbride

5:08pm on 17/4/2012

he has said some sane comments so is fit for trial. the internationalists and western press have said islam is a problem? so to have zionists. perhaps borders up and protectionism is the way forward. i am not anti this or that. but look around and there are major probs in all eu countries, and there is no escaping that the eu is doomed and the eu has caused probs for norway in particular. i hope we don't get more nutters like him being fuelled by bad govt policy.

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chris

7:30pm on 17/4/2012

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dave

8:15pm on 17/4/2012

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Ian F Cole

8:20pm on 17/4/2012

An eye for an eye is was written for a person like this. he deserves the very worst of punishments the world can come up with.......

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nashy1964

9:37am on 19/4/2012

do you really believe this guy will be the last, hell no as time goes by and as britain and the european countries get even more over run by immigrants there will be more that will take the place of this guy.its inevitable that as the immagrant threat to our way of life and our homelands will force even worse conflicts and civil unrest will ensue in the most violent of ways. this guy has shown us a possible future that im afraid to say will come as more and more immigrants violate our borders with impunity.

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10:40am on 24/4/2012

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Mike Williams

1:02pm on 19/4/2012

surely the knights templar are linked with freemasonry who are driving for a new world order... that would be completely the opposite of this creature's goal.

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Andy Cane

2:43pm on 19/4/2012

The media is playing into his his twisted mind and hands

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Michael Booth

5:51pm on 19/4/2012

There are two separate issues here. The cold hearted horror of all the people he killed and his fear of the Islamicisation of Europe!

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10:43pm on 23/4/2012

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9:51am on 24/4/2012

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nick

8:24pm on 19/4/2012

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movvi

9:55pm on 19/4/2012

Why remove my comment?! I only voted for a prison cell rather than a bed in a secure unit - and some bigger boys in there with him. I think that's fair! Was it because I did, actually, also post, "nutter"?

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IRONSTINE

6:40pm on 23/4/2012

these extreme religious and political activists that indiscriminately take life, can not be rational as their victims might at some point have been the person that would do their cause a service, in this case my views on this base animal will conclude.

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9:54am on 24/4/2012

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10:48pm on 23/4/2012

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9:37am on 24/4/2012

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milan.palmer

12:02pm on 24/4/2012

"Breivik could face a maximum 21-year prison sentence " - Can somebody answer why he is going to get of so light doing 21 years for killing 77 people? how stupid.

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