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  • 24 November 2012, 14:17

PM Faces Tory Rebellion Over Gay Marriage

David Cameron could be facing the biggest Conservative rebellion of his premiership over plans to introduce gay marriage.

Some 118 Tory MPs - more than a third of the party's representatives- have indicated to their constituents that they are uneasy about the highly controversial move, according to The Daily Mail.

The reported figure is a sign of how divided the Conservative Party is over gay marriage, despite both the Prime Minister and Chancellor George Osborne being personally committed to legislating for it.

Ministers have promised to introduce a Bill before 2015, although it has been claimed this week that Mr Cameron actually wants to fast-track legislation and bring it before Parliament early next year.

The Government has indicated that there will be a free vote, meaning that MPs will be able to vote against the Prime Minister's position without facing disciplinary action.

However it is far from clear if all 118 MPs would vote against the legislation.

Sky News have spoken to several MPs quoted in the article who have ruled out voting against the Government.

Openly gay MP for Bournemouth West, Conor Burns, said he hasn't decided whether to abstain or vote in favour but says he doesn't understand why it's being brought forward now.

Other MPs have expressed concerns over whether enough safeguards are in place to protect religious institutions but refuse to indicate whether they oppose the principle of gay marriage.

The Chancellor however believes a large Tory vote against gay marriage will not help the party appeal to centre ground voters.

Mr Osborne warned last week that ditching the policy would be toxic electorally.

He said that polls indicate a "clear majority" in favour of the change, particularly among the young and women.

A significant vote in opposition to the Government's proposals from within Conservative ranks would certainly be an embarrassment for the Prime Minister and a further blow to his credibility.

what do you think?

16 comments

gengisken1227

10:19am on 24/11/2012

David Cameron is a Conservative?

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10:56am on 24/11/2012

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shaun spencer

11:16am on 24/11/2012

I cant see why a unionship cant be made by two peaple who love each other but it should involve any religeous blessing.at least if you believe what the bible says.

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11:46am on 24/11/2012

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blue side

12:33pm on 24/11/2012

There you go shaun you got your answer hope you can read it cause I am lost. think there is some mention about union between men and women not same sex.

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stewgwyn

1:33pm on 24/11/2012

Each to their own, but is it really worth all these ministers tme, not to mention our money !

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Louisa Gieldon

5:29pm on 24/11/2012

Yes, well that's cleared it all up nicely Christos. Thanks.

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Russell6730

7:05pm on 24/11/2012

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Juliecrumpton1234

2:53pm on 25/11/2012

Crack on, christos! Lololol! Always good for a giggle! :-)

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11:36am on 24/11/2012

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12:23am on 25/11/2012

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12:24am on 25/11/2012

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Nigel L

12:09pm on 24/11/2012

Hard working families,let alone pensioners, are afraid to heat their homes or use their cars for anything other than absolutely essential journeys, yet all we hear from the government is same sex marriage,crime commissioners,votes for prisoners etc. Tackle the real issues Cameron this rubbish can wait.

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KneecapsNorman

1:24pm on 24/11/2012

spot on

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stewgwyn

1:30pm on 24/11/2012

That's what I say, with all that needs putting right in Britain, I can't believe they're wasting such time and money on stuff like this.

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Dave Harrison

1:33pm on 24/11/2012

Nigel. Couldn't have put it better myself. The country is falling apart and Cameron fiddles with side issues. I am beginning to think the big isssues are beyond him

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Louisa Gieldon

5:28pm on 24/11/2012

But Nigel, thought it may not affect you or I, it is a very important issue for many and whatever our thinking on the issue, it needs to be progressed.

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Dave Harrison

2:35pm on 25/11/2012

Louisa. Maybe but at the moment there are far more pressing issues facing the country than 2 blokes getting married in church

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Louisa Gieldon

4:26pm on 25/11/2012

That is not for you or I to say Dave. We all have different priorities A g*y friend of mine died recently. This was a very very important issue to him and his partner and he would have loved to have been married in his church. For them it was near the top of the list of important issues to be dealt with,much more so than some of the other issues discussed on here. It would have made my friend very happy indeed.

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Dave Harrison

5:57pm on 25/11/2012

Louisa. No It is not. It is for the church to decide and they are saying a resounding no. Legislation is not the way to resolve this issue and the govt should butt out, if you see what I mean

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Louisa Gieldon

6:34pm on 25/11/2012

Just miss my pal and wish he could have been accepted. I used to question his faith and devotion to a church that wouldn't accept him. But he was a good person and so devout in his faith. It seems so sad,

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Louisa Gieldon

7:05pm on 25/11/2012

Not really thinking that legislation is the way forward, Just pointing out that it's really important to some people

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Dave Harrison

7:07pm on 25/11/2012

Louisa. That does you great credit and is nothing to be ashamed of. Be happy that you knew him and stiil have your memories.

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Louisa Gieldon

10:49pm on 25/11/2012

Thank you Dave. I am glad i knew him. Night x

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blue side

12:34pm on 24/11/2012

Not comfortable but then I am old school - think this sends out the wrong message

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stewgwyn

1:36pm on 24/11/2012

I think the same as you, and I also think it can wait until the country is back on its feet (if ever).

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Michael Hawkins

1:37pm on 24/11/2012

Blue side You are safe I do not believe it will be compulsory for all YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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David Wragg

6:31am on 25/11/2012

I agree entirely, Blue Side, but then Cameron is any colour but blue. He has no interest in policies or principles, and simply awful judgement.

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Michael Hawkins

1:37pm on 25/11/2012

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KneecapsNorman

1:25pm on 24/11/2012

surely the prime minister should have a lot more important things to be concentrating on at the moment

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Simon .

1:39pm on 24/11/2012

cme on Parliament - wake up to the 21st cenury! Of course, it does bring back memories of all those public school days and regular bug gery....

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Louisa Gieldon

5:25pm on 24/11/2012

Maybe Dave will tell them to get with the programme?

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Russell6730

7:08pm on 24/11/2012

Why has Cameron got this strange obsession with same sex marriage?

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2:30am on 25/11/2012

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Michael Hawkins

10:43am on 25/11/2012

Votes ?

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Dave Harrison

2:30pm on 25/11/2012

Michael. It will lose him more votes than he hopes to pick up unless he is after Caroline Lucas seat in Brighton

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David Wragg

6:29am on 25/11/2012

While I think civil partnerships are a good way of enabling homosexuals to cement their union and also ensure that their companions are catered for in the case of the death of one of them without having written a will - forcing churches to provide a marriage service in the face of the teachings not just of the Christian Bible but most formal religions, is wrong. In any case, why does this appeal so much to this government at a time when there re so many issues, with the economy top of the list.? I don't believe Cameron is a Tory at all!

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Russell6730

9:45am on 25/11/2012

The last sentence of your comment says it all and it will cost the Torys dearly come the next election

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Dave Harrison

2:28pm on 25/11/2012

David. Very well put. I suspect most g ays just want to get on with their life unhindered. It is only those axe grinding activists who engineered the B&B case recently who are pushing this and trying to force their opinions on others by screaming discrimination

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bjnk

3:34pm on 25/11/2012

Well put David, it is wrong if any legislation is forced upon the established churches,as this goes against all teachings. I think the civil partnership was the right way to go with the ever increasing homosexuals population,and gives the same rights as any hetrosexual couple,so in all but name is a marriage,but keep it to civil ceremonies.I suppose one reason it may appeal so much is there seems to be quite a number of mp's of this persuasion.

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Peter Edwardson

8:00pm on 25/11/2012

What do you expect from PS boys and limpy libs and of course silly milly and his gang?

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Peter Coates

11:44am on 25/11/2012

Who gives a oss what goy's do. We have more important issues to sort out. Get a grip cameroon. ditherer.

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Michael Hawkins

1:39pm on 25/11/2012

Interesting how orange block the word G*AY in a post, but go to the head of the page and there it is in large bold lettersin the title of the topic WHAT A BUNCH OF HYPACRITS ORANGE ARE

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bjnk

9:00pm on 25/11/2012

Agreed, you can't put h***sexual but it will accept homosexuals.

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Peter Edwardson

7:56pm on 25/11/2012

Cameron got the fiddle out. Where is the fire?

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snape

9:36pm on 25/11/2012

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Brian Holmes

10:23am on 26/11/2012

Marriage is a religious institution. I don't have to spell out the reason Christian Churches are duty bound to oppose so-called g ay marriage. Any Church which carries out such a ceremony ceases to be a Christian Church. It cannot preach against something while actively facilitating it. The civil ceremony is sufficient to ensure fairness for g ay couples. Cameron is actively seeking to undermine the position of the Christian Church in this country and we must ask ourselves, why?

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