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  • 13 March 2013, 18:03

Pope Election: Black Smoke Signals No New Pope

Black smoke from the first two votes of the conclave entering its second day has signalled the cardinals tasked with electing a new pope are still not agreed on Benedict's successor.

They are expected to hold a further two ballots later on the first full day of voting.

The cardinals reconvened for the papal conclave behind closed doors after the first round of voting on Tuesday night proved inconclusive.

They awoke to attend mass in the Pauline Chapel in the Vatican's Apostolic Palace and returned to the Renaissance splendour of the Sistine Chapel to hold two morning ballots.

All eyes remain on the chimney atop the Vatican's Sistine Chapel as the process of finding a successor to Benedict XVI, who brought a troubled eight-year papacy to an abrupt end by resigning last month, will continue until his replacement is found.

The 115 voting eligible church leaders spent the night sequestered in the Santa Marta Hotel on the edge of the Vatican's gardens, without access to television, newspapers, mobile phones or computers.

They first filed into the chapel chamber, renowned for its ceiling fresco painted by Renaissance master Michelangelo, on Tuesday morning to begin their deliberations.

Hours later after sunset, black smoke billowed from the chimney above the Vatican, indicating that no-one had gained the two-thirds majority needed to become the 266th pope.

Only the emergence of white smoke - produced by mixing the smoke from burning ballots with special flares - will signal that a new leader for the world's 1.2 billion Catholics has been chosen.

The tens of thousands that braved the rain and gathered in St Peter's Square to bear witness to the centuries-old tradition cheered in excitement or booed in mock disappointment.

Among the cardinals gathered in Rome, Italy's Angelo Scola, Brazil's Odilo Scherer and Canada's Marc Ouellet - all conservatives like Benedict - are the three favourites.

Modern-day conclaves normally last no more than a few days.

However, there is no clear frontrunner, meaning the election could go on for much longer than the two days and four rounds of voting that it took to elect Joseph Ratzinger in 2005, following the death of John Paul II.

Some analysts have suggested that Benedict's dramatic departure - the first papal resignation in over 700 years - could push the cardinals to take an equally unusual decision and elect an outsider.

Hopes are high in the Philippines for the popular Archbishop of Manila, Luis Antonio Tagle, and on the African continent for South Africa's Wilfrid Napier, the archbishop of Durban, but in practice their chances are very slim.

Two-thirds of the cardinals are from Europe and North America and the view among many experts is that only someone with experience of the inner workings of the Vatican administration can drive reform and repair the scandal-ridden reputation of the Catholic Church.

 

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stevie may

11:29am on 13/3/2013

Dosent matter who is elected Pope, the Vatican won't change. Wealth, power and social control. The same with most organised religions. Whoever is the new Pope, they could heal SO many old wounds by apologising for so many historic crimes. Crimes which Jesus himself would never have tolerated. An apology could do SO much to rehabilitate the public image of the Vatican and bring it into the 21st Century. . . Will we get an apology ?

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Juliecrumpton1234

12:58pm on 13/3/2013

Will we hell!

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Viv hanshall

3:07pm on 13/3/2013

The issue with apologies is that virtually every institution / country / group has something to apologise for. The UK has decades of conquests, exploitation, theft, killing and subjugation to account for. Should the UK apologise? Surely the answer is yes then?

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Vincent Stafford

11:58am on 13/3/2013

The Cowell creature could sort this with one Saturday night peak viewing time show .

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George Powell

12:03pm on 13/3/2013

Is he a Catholic or the Devil's disciple??

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Juliecrumpton1234

1:00pm on 13/3/2013

Buzz! Buzz! Buzz!

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George Powell

12:03pm on 13/3/2013

It is not for me to tell the Roman Catholic Church how to organise its affairs but there is nowhere in the Holy Bible that says church leaders have to be male and celibate. Perhaps a sincere apology for past sins and a change to allow women into the priesthood and male priests to marry would be a step in the right direction.

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pjbeckett

12:10pm on 13/3/2013

This is so because all Christ`s disciples were male and unmarried but maybe the Greek Orthodox Church has a better idea : the priesthood is only open to married men with children.

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Donna Morton

1:42pm on 13/3/2013

Me and my catholic friend was saying the same last nightvabout them marrying etc

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stevie may

2:05pm on 13/3/2013

Sorry beckett but Mary Magdelen was a disciple of Jesus. . And the one he loved and trusted the most. That's why she was there during the crucifixion and the other disciples werent

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Donna Morton

12:37pm on 13/3/2013

Bout time a woman was elected!

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Juliecrumpton1234

4:05pm on 13/3/2013

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Juliecrumpton1234

12:59pm on 13/3/2013

...looks like a crematorium!

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James Dalby

1:22pm on 13/3/2013

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Steve Marshall

1:29pm on 13/3/2013

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Brian Quinn

1:51pm on 13/3/2013

The sooner a Pope is elected the better. I cannot stand the monopilization of TV news programmes. Strange really, as I thought the UK was a Protestant country.

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t.bulgin

6:55pm on 13/3/2013

I agree. Its sickening the way the bbc in particular are fawning over this tripe. Are they all catolics as well as socilaists ?

Richard Crowther

2:31pm on 13/3/2013

Personally I think this is a load of mumbo-jumbo brought about to keep the catholic masses in awe. Also, this burning of ballot papers is causing pollution when they could easily be recycled, (now the in thing). The Vatican has a curtained window where someone or other appears after the event so why not use this instead of a smoking chimney. All that has to happen is for one of the cardinals to appear from behind said curtain and shrug impressively to the masses if there is no conclusive vote or give the "thumbs up" with a leap or two if there is. Simple ain't it. :]

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Viv hanshall

3:10pm on 13/3/2013

'To keep the Catholic masses in awe' So what function do 'our Kate' and 'brave Harry' have in this country? To keep the subjects in awe and respect of a non elected privileged family. Is that not equally as dysfunctional? (if not more so)

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Juliecrumpton1234

4:04pm on 13/3/2013

Good points from both of you!

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Richard Crowther

5:03pm on 13/3/2013

Yes, Viv hanshall, but ain't they lovely... :]

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Mushtacq Hussain

3:18pm on 13/3/2013

Oh no!!! My mates been chain smoking at the Vatican chimney again. I'll have to tell him off!!! Lolxxx

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shaun spencer

4:01pm on 13/3/2013

I thought they were having a barbecue.im starting to wonder just what their burning.is it really ballots papers etc.reminds me of a cremertorium chimney.

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Juliecrumpton1234

4:03pm on 13/3/2013

Said the same thing Shaun, it's creepy to say the least!

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Juliecrumpton1234

4:02pm on 13/3/2013

" scandle ridden" says it all really, do people actualy believe in this stuff, why? A pope is just a bloke, same as any other, he's not magical special, or anything, but stick a frock on him and a gold stick in his hand, not forgetting the silly hat, and people fawn over him in droves! It's sickening, and given the reputation of the Catholic Church, wrong!!!

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fish41

5:07pm on 13/3/2013

Book of Revelation written almost 2000 years ago has some fascinating descriptions of a false church responsible for killing those who believe in Jesus . This false church is described as being in the seven hilled city and its leaders all wearing purple and gold and other costly jewels. This false church is also described as having its ties with all the governments in the world and being in cahoots with dark powers and sexual immorality being one of its problems. When you consider the humbleness of Christ in contrast to the pomp and splendour of the vatican i know who i would rather trust and follow

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Juliecrumpton1234

7:13pm on 13/3/2013

Atheist, but it doesn't suprise me!

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t.bulgin

6:57pm on 13/3/2013

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