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RBS Posts £2bn Loss Amid Bank Bonus Furore
Taxpayer-backed Royal Bank of Scotland has announced a full year loss of nearly £2bn - further fuelling the debate about bankers' pay and bonuses.
The bank, which is 82% owned by the state, posted a pre-tax loss of £766m for 2011 and a total loss of almost £2bn, which includes various accounting and tax charges.
The bank said "several large one-off items" accounted for the loss, including a near-£1bn hit for mis-sold payment protection insurance compensation.
Greek sovereign debt impairments and restructuring costs also played a part.
The figure compares to total losses of £1.1bn in 2010.
The bank will pay out £785m in bonuses to all its staff, with £390m going to RBS's 17,000 investment bankers.
The average pay out to an investment banker will be £23,000, although some will get nothing and many of the awards will be much higher.
The total bonus pool, revealed exclusively a day earlier by Sky News City editor Mark Kleinman, is a 43% reduction on last year.
Mr Kleinman said: "The reduced bonus numbers for RBS's investment bank represents a cut of about 60% on last year's pot of £950m.
"RBS argues that this demonstrates restraint amid intense criticism of City pay."
RBS has been at the centre of a growing row over bankers' pay, which led to chief executive Stephen Hester waiving his £963,000 bonus several weeks ago.
In a statement that has accompanied the latest results, Mr Hester wrote: "We have three jobs at RBS - to support our customers, to defuse our legacy risks and to rebuild a successful profitable bank.
"In 2011 we showed results aross all three goals, though with much still to go."
The lavish bonus culture amid economic austerity follows a period in which the bank announced thousands of job cuts as it scaled back its investment arm Global Banking and Markets.
Staff costs decreased by 9% in 2011.
In a letter to shareholders RBS chairman Sir Philip Hampton wrote: "I understand people's anger and anxiety about inequalities in pay at a time when the economy is weak.
"RBS alone cannot fix these issues if we are to achieve what is asked of us commercially."
RBS, which employs 146,800 staff, received a £45.5bn taxpayer bailout at the height of the financial crisis in 2008.
In January, RBS former chief executive Fred Goodwin had his knighthood stripped over his role in the bank's near-collapse.
RBS and its rivals have been hit by volatile financial markets, eurozone debt woes, weak consumer confidence at home and reforms to banking regulation and law, such as forcing banks to separate their retail and investment banking arms.
Chancellor George Osborne supported the bank's move to reduce investment banker bonuses.
He said: "The new management team at RBS are cleaning up the mess after the biggest bank bailout in history, just as the Government is cleaning up the system of bank regulation that failed so badly.
"These results show that they are doing just that.
"We have made clear that RBS should be a backmarker in the industry when it comes to pay, so it's right that bonuses at the investment bank are less than half what they were last year and less than a third of what they were in 2009.
"But our main interest should be to get back as much money as possible for taxpayers and we must not let those that want to create an anti-business culture put that at risk."
Deputy prime minister Nick Clegg told Sky News that RBS investment banker bonuses were "going in the right direction of travel."
He added that he would "like to wave a magic wand" to sort out the UK's banking system, but it was "a long term programme" of making sure banks limit bonuses, pay greater taxes and lend more to businesses.
RBS shares are worth around £20bn less today than when the bank was rescued by the Government.
Despite a 40% rise in the share price in recent weeks, RBS needs shares, which are currently trading at about 28p, to rise to 50p before the taxpayer can break even.
The Unite union reacted angrily to the bonus announcement, saying it was not being distributed evenly among the workforce.
David Fleming, Unite national officer, said: "If RBS split the massive bonus pot it is awarding its investment bankers between the 60,000 average bank workers, they would have a real opportunity to pay their household bills and change the life of their family.
"It beggars belief that this 82% taxpayer-backed institution is imposing a pay cut on its hard-working frontline staff, while continuing to pay the City bankers ridiculously large bonuses."
Read more on bonuses
:: RBS chairman Sir Philip Hampton claims in a Sky News documentary with Jeff Randall that the era of big banking bonuses is over
:: A YouGov poll for Sky News shows 75% of people believe that bosses at Britain's state-backed banks should not receive bonuses
what do you think?

David Wragg
Bonuses shold be for exceptional performance and, dare I say it, success. How can a loss-making bank pay out this much?

Ronald George Halliday
If you lose money, how can you justify paying bonuses? That is a double loss to the bank. Something wrong with your mathematics Mr Bank Manager!!!

doug piercy
Should have gone intro banking ... Missed that trick. Every job I've ever done you only get bonuses when you've done well! And that's if there are any at all.

Paul Gallagher
I was always under the impression a bonus was given for good results, when did this change. It hasn't unless your a (w)banker.

Stephen Deal
The loss has doubled in a couple of hours, if the Sky news reports are to be believed. At 5:30 this morning the losses were 1 billion, reading the report again at 8:00 and they are 2 billion.

Samantha Harris
Why isn't it 'no bonuses until they're back in the black'?

david
Would it not be simpler and fairer to base bonus payments on profit related performance. That way everyone should be happy. The problem seems to be paying out while running at a loss. In a normal world this is not possible.

Lee Bennett
yep cameron really did put his foot down on banking bonuses !! what a j erk.They are all his chums so he isn't going to upset them is he.Rich getting richer AGAIN.Disgraceful.

tagliatellius
I used to work in the coal mines, if we produced a certain tonnage of coal we received a bonus, if we hit a problem such as a geological fault in the coal seam and produced no coal then we received no bonus. In the crazed world of bankers and politicians logic is turned on its head.

Neil Elmes
If you produced the tonnage, but because of other problems that were nothing to do with you the company made a loss, would you still expect a bonus

tagliatellius
When we produced the tonnage we made a profit that is the point! Are you a banker pal?

Neil Elmes
Why, do you think that only bankers have the intelligence to think about more than just the headline and realise it's not just as simple as the politicians and the media would have you believe. Surely not

tagliatellius
You are a banker then.

ken clayton
without the bonus payments the losses would have been 1.2 billion if the politicians cannot work this out they are not capable of running a bring and buy sale .

Neil Elmes
without the bonus system, the guys who made profits that earned them a bonus wouldn't have worked at the bank, and the losses would have been much larger. But if you cannot work this out ...................

Tes Davies
Don't give them a bonus for a bad performance give them the SACK.

Gillian Stafford
You couldn't make this up - this farce is now obviously out of control and completely impervious to any criticism or protest. Cameron and the suits have managed to take the **** from us and wet themselves laughing at us at the same time.

Gordon Wright
No bonuses for anyone until every last penny owed to the taxpayer is repaid !!!!!

gengisken1227
Remind me again - who's great idea was it, to invest taxpayers money in a failing bank?

Gordon Wright
I suggest we implement a new incentive scheme at this farce of a bank It's called "Fear of the sack"

Jan N Andy Oakley-Hills
WHICH BIT DON'T THEY UNDERSTAND? BONUSES ARE PERFORMANCE RELATED, IF YOU DON'T ACHIEVE TARGET YOU DON'T ACHIEVE THE BONUS - SIMPLE!!! THIS IS HOW IS WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD! THE BANKS SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BAILED OUT WITH TAXPAYER'S MONEY, THE MONEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER INVESTED IN HELPING OUR INDUSTRY TO STAY AFLOAT AND IN BRITISH CONTROL NOT SOLD OFF TO FOREIGNERS!!!! GREED-GREED-GREED FROM THE TOP DOWN!

MichaelStinton
Bankers are once again sticking two fingers up to the rest of us. This governments attempts to reign them in is pathetic. Legislation to curtail these obscene excesses is long overdue. The 99% will support it whole heartedly. Threats to leave the country are hollow and their bluff should be called.








Stephen Deal
5:40am on 23/2/2012
So, the bank makes a LOSS of 1 billion pounds and has a fund set aside of 800 million pounds for 'performance' bonuses. Are the true loses 200 million or 1.8 billion pounds? Because if they haven't made a PROFIT then the bonus money must be included in the loss amount.