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  • 14 October 2012, 8:02

Jimmy Savile 'Abuse Spans Six Decades'

The head of the Metropolitan Police Service investigation into Jimmy Savile has said abuse allegations span six decades and could involve 60 victims.

Commander Peter Spindler, who leads the MPS Specialist Crime Investigations branch, said: "We can now confirm that we have received information from the public that suggests allegations against Jimmy Savile span six decades with reports starting in 1959 up to and including 2006.

"Having now had the opportunity to review progress one week on I have revised my estimate of the number of likely victims to be about 60.

"Once again I want to thank those who have come forward and reassure them, and everyone else who contacts us, they will be listened to."

The scandal surrounding the former Top of the Pops presenter has mushroomed since ITV screened a documentary in which five women alleged they were abused by the late DJ and broadcaster.

Scotland Yard is pursuing 340 lines of inquiry into the Savile abuse case and so far 12 allegations of sexual offences have been officially recorded.

Metropolitan Police detectives are in contact with 14 other forces as the number of allegations continues to rise.

Police investigated allegations about Savile's behaviour as far back as 1958, The Sunday Telegraph claimed.

Savile paid officers to drop a case against him for "interfering with young girls" when he was a nightclub manager in Leeds, his former bodyguard told the newspaper.

It comes after the Department of Health announced it was to investigate how Savile was allowed to work as a volunteer following allegations that he abused and raped patients at Broadmoor hospital in the 1970s and 1980s.

A spokeswoman said there would be an investigation into how the TV presenter was appointed to lead a "taskforce" overseeing a restructuring of the hospital's management.

Lawyers acting for Savile's alleged victims are said to be considering taking legal action against several NHS trusts and the BBC.

Lawyer Liz Dux, of Slater and Gordon, and an expert in personal injury and child abuse cases, told The Guardian newspaper she was acting for a number of women who want to sue on the grounds of vicarious liability.

The BBC has come under fire after it emerged Newsnight abandoned an investigation into the alleged abuse and claims that staff were aware of Savile's behaviour and failed to take action.

Director-general George Entwistle offered an apology to the victims on Friday and announced two inquiries would be held - into the Newsnight decision and culture and practices at the BBC.

what do you think?

17 comments

Para999Tom

9:46pm on 13/10/2012

it would be far better if this was now kept out of the press. its turning into journalistic sensationalism.

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Julie Crumpton

9:50pm on 13/10/2012

Do you think it's all a pack of lies then? @ para999tom

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Julie Crumpton

9:49pm on 13/10/2012

Six decades!?.....what's the opinions now, I wonder! :-/

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Diane Rogers

9:52pm on 13/10/2012

Still the same

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Julie Crumpton

9:54pm on 13/10/2012

Guilty or not, Diane?

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Diane Rogers

9:58pm on 13/10/2012

Innocent till proven guilty,i can not believe all these people did not say anything till he was dead

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Julie Crumpton

7:06am on 14/10/2012

They had their reasens, does not alter the damning evidence building up.

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shirley sutton

8:12am on 14/10/2012

Diana is right innocent til proven guilty and it is strange that with all these victims didn't get into papers til now. Julie what's your problem having a go at everyone who doesn't share your opinion on this - had a go at Andrea Diana - everyone entitled to own opinion and as yet nothing proved just hearsay

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Steven White

8:26am on 14/10/2012

Shirley, do you honestly think all of the victims are lieing? Just a simple yes or no is needed thanks

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Julie Crumpton

9:47am on 14/10/2012

Shirley...me thinks the lady doth protest too much! I agree with chris, Ali,Steven, and a lot more on here , 6 decades!! Come ON! If it was only one victim, it would be one to many! To answer your question, about me disagreeing with everyone on here, we ALL do that! .....your disagreeing with me right now!

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shaun spencer

10:33am on 14/10/2012

Shirley ive asked this below but ill ask it again here.if jimmy were alive today would you agree that he should be arrested and charged with sexial assault.

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Vladtheinhaler .

11:04am on 14/10/2012

Diane must have a "Jim'll fix it badge". Shaun, if Jimmy was alive , the police wouldn't dare arrest him, and the old cover up brigade would be out in force. "Jimmy Saville, a dirty filthy child abuser.... surely not", ."He can't be a pervert, it must be the accuser..... throw that person in a cell" As is the norm, when someone with power is caught red handed. The old Masonry at work, and all that. Six decades of testimony flooding in and people still support this filth, the mind truely boggles.

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Julie Crumpton

12:34pm on 14/10/2012

I think the "jim" supporters KNOW he's guilty, deep down, they are all floundering, if he is found guilty, and the true victims get compensation, don't be blaming them.......blame the filthy swine who did it!

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movvi

5:57pm on 14/10/2012

His family, after all, has very publicly announced that they are in no doubt that he did indeed perpetrate such crimes. They must have known him very well and perhaps suspected too - perhaps some were even victims. This alone would suggest guilt.

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Julie Crumpton

6:37pm on 14/10/2012

Didn't know that,movvi, as I have said, the evidence is mounting, and all a lot of people on here are whining about, is where the monies are coming from! Completely disregarding what this excuse for a man did! WHAT ABOUT THE VICTIMS!!!!!!

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Julie Crumpton

7:11pm on 14/10/2012

Oh! And Shirley....are you suggesting I agree with everyone's comments on here? Thought this was a DEBATE! They tend to get heated, I say it like it is, like it....or lump it, don't care which, I get accused on here of doing what a lot of people on here do, do I care? Do I hell! At least I'm upfront about it, couldn't give a damn how many " thumbs down" I get, I'm not ten yrs old, don't collect thumbs ups like gold stars! As you say....everyone on here entitled to their own opinion, don't know of Diane to well, but Andrea can pump out vitriol, and a lady on here actualy said she should be removed, so as I say, ALL of our opinions are allowed, if your to " precious" to play....then don't!

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Janet Gough

11:21am on 15/10/2012

If it was 6 decades he is still doing it now from the grave. 60 years from 1958? Julie you are obviously hurting but you really are turning people off believing he did it. Sometimes to much protesting reverses the effect you are trying to have.

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Janet Gough

11:25am on 15/10/2012

Vlad I think there would be outcry if he wasn't prosecuted these days. If he were alive he would be going down with legitimate evidence. Even Jimmy Savile wouldn't have been able to fix it for himself.

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Julie Crumpton

3:03pm on 15/10/2012

No, Janet, I'm not, look at the evidence piling up, and, you know, I'm not the only one on here believing he's guilty as hell, ok, so what do YOU think? I have been accused on here of " having gos" at people who's opinion is different from mine....funny,thought that was the point, however, I digress! So I'm asking what you think....may not agree, but hey! We may on another subject! ;-)

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movvi

6:06pm on 15/10/2012

Yep - it's certainly mounting up!

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Janet Gough

11:24pm on 15/10/2012

Julie I do agree there are plenty of people agreeing with you but there are a lot who seem to be annoyed and bitter towards you. I think you have the right to express your opinion but you must let others have their own opinions too without jumping down their throats. I don't know if he is guilty but if he is what will happen? They can't do anything to him or put him away. I would just like the evidence to come out and be confirmed before judgement is passed. I really can't answer whether I think he is guilty or not but there does seem to be a lot of people coming forward.

Chris Robinson

2:15am on 14/10/2012

If it wasn't such a tragic story for the victims, I would laugh so much at those on here who have fought tooth and nail to defend Savile. The likes of Andrea Hill, Para999Tom, Emma Barrett and so many more. And while it has become so obvious he is a paedophile and rapist, they have then, to their eternal shame, attempted to smear his victims and blame people who did not come forwsrd for a variety of reasons. They have tried to defend this paedophile to the hilt Shame on them. What a disgrace they are. How can anybody defend such a man and his crimes? It's beyond me. It doesn't bear thinking about.

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Para999Tom

8:14am on 14/10/2012

chris robinson get your facts right "tooth and nail" eh. can you show me exactly where i have defended him to the hilt, as you put it.i believe in innocent until proven guilty whereas you go by trial by media.you cannot tell me sat in your little world behind your keyboard that you believe every single thing thats been published about this case,or as your so narrow minded you probably do.

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Steven White

8:18am on 14/10/2012

I agree Chris. I've stopped commenting as all it is doing is making me angry that there is people out there who can defend such an evil, calculated sexual predator and even with the amount of evidence stacking up this are still intent on backing him up. It's pretty easy to see why they where scared to come forward, when he was at his celebrity peak if this is how sections of the public would of reacted to there accusations!

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Diane Rogers

8:22am on 14/10/2012

I don't think I am defending him,but it is their word against who a dead man.

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Steven White

8:27am on 14/10/2012

You are defending him Diane

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AliBumin

9:36am on 14/10/2012

Diane - just because someone is dead, it doesn`t mean that none of his victims should be believed, particularly as there are so many who describe the same things independently. As someone has said, would you defend Hitler just because he`s dead.

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Julie Crumpton

9:58am on 14/10/2012

Well said, chris, but don't DARE have a different opinion to them....They don't like it, lol!

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Steven White

10:09am on 14/10/2012

Ali, Hitler was innocent until proven guilty don't forget. He died before trial so we will never know.

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Andrea Hill

10:33am on 14/10/2012

oh be quiet with your big speeches. as long as cash strapped nhs doesnt suffer.

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Julie Crumpton

8:54pm on 14/10/2012

Your right chris...."certain persons" on here, are as transparent as hell, clearly all they are concerned about is where the monies are coming from..no compassion for the victims, lets face it, if abuse hadn't taken place in the first place, and it seems there is no doubt now, they show no pity or kindness or compassion whatsoever....sickening!

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Chris Robinson

11:22am on 15/10/2012

Para999, just read your own comments, how you deflect and minimise Savile's crimes. Andrea, still think Savile is 'a great man'?

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John Dodsworth

3:20am on 14/10/2012

Millions to pay out in comp yeh?

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David Mcewan

9:57am on 14/10/2012

Who is gonny pay this?

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movvi

10:46am on 14/10/2012

Yep - £10 million according to yesterday's papers. To pay? The BBC.

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Vladtheinhaler .

10:57am on 14/10/2012

It doesen't matter who pays it, they deserve it. Or do you think he's not guilty as well. Some right strange attitudes on here, just because money has been mentioned. Compensation is paid out daily to police officers, for witnessing stressful events. In the Hillsborough case, some of the police got more than the victims, by the way, lot sooner. But some idiots would say that is fair, because they "support" our boys in blue, just as some on here are Jimmy Savile "supporters". Sick, really. I suggest you keep quiet, if you can't support the victims. You will all be quiet when an inquiry proves he was a filthy pervert.

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movvi

5:54pm on 14/10/2012

Go Vlad. The fact compensation may become available does not at all detract from the fact that these allegations are horrific.

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Julie Crumpton

7:00pm on 14/10/2012

Well said, movvi and vlad!

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keith

8:05am on 14/10/2012

Strange how this has all come out now he is dead. Who actually started the ball rolling? I think there is a major conspiracy behind this against the BBC and seemingly well justified but i also feel almost all of the people popping up saying he 'touched me too' years ago are just jumping on the money bandwagon. The bigger question is why has nobody said anything to the authorities before now and also waited a year after his death to say something? Celebrity or not, he is accountable for his actions just the same as a 'normal' member of the public so should of been reported when is happened. Also ALL the celebrities who have said they knew about it should be charged with withholding information about a heinous crime.

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Kevin Cole

8:19am on 14/10/2012

After the "investigation" i bet licence fees go up!!

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Andrea Hill

10:35am on 14/10/2012

yes strange.

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Diane Rogers

8:38am on 14/10/2012

Steven sorry thougt this was still a free country, but not if I disagree with you or Julie

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Julie Crumpton

9:38am on 14/10/2012

Hey! Diane..have a go if I have offended you, but not before, ok?

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Steven White

10:11am on 14/10/2012

It can't be a free country, can it????? You can only make accusations if someone is alive, right?

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shaun spencer

8:43am on 14/10/2012

I wouldnt take any notice of the"innocent until proven guilty "brigade" as they offer no real opinion and they add nothing to the debate.they just keep repeating themselves.in the same vain they also keep stating the obvious that "the man is dead" as if this makes all the difference.hitler shot himself dead before the end of the war would they still have said "innocent until found guilty"

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Diane Rogers

8:50am on 14/10/2012

How dare you compare the two,didn't Hitler stop people disagreeing with him

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Para999Tom

8:55am on 14/10/2012

your compairing someone who committed war crimes to someone who is accused of committing sex crimes. you ever seen a gas chamber ( there's the proof) now where's the proof supporting the sex crimes.( peoples statements) remember the idea of a comments section is for anybody to give their opinion whether you like it or not or even if it doesn't fit with your personal views. so dismissing other peoples comments out of hand is not really constructive is it .

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shaun spencer

9:09am on 14/10/2012

No im not comparing the two like your wishing to believe just the fact they are both dead and so couldnt go to trial..

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Andrea Hill

10:27am on 14/10/2012

we know what hitler did, we have proof.

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Vladtheinhaler .

10:49am on 14/10/2012

So the proof of Jimmys crimes should be that there is physical evidence left to show a court. If that was the only criteria for justice, no one would ever be found guilty. There is enough testimony in this case to convict a dozen perverts, why are you being so obtuse, Diane.

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shaun spencer

10:59am on 14/10/2012

Andrea hill why dont you answer my question below

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Chris Robinson

11:08am on 15/10/2012

And would you beleive, andrea, there are still some nutters claiming Hitler did not know about the holocaust? Like there are some who beleive Savile was 'a great man'? (No names mentioned).

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shaun spencer

8:48am on 14/10/2012

To the innocent until proving guilty brigade,can just answer one simple question, if jimmy were alive today do you think he would have been arrested and charged with sexual assault.

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Diane Rogers

8:57am on 14/10/2012

Yes I do other celebrities have

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Para999Tom

9:01am on 14/10/2012

to the trial by media brigade, yes but it should have been done years ago.

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shaun spencer

9:16am on 14/10/2012

So good we have now got somewhere im sometimes getting the impression you think hes innocent.so you do think theres enough evidence to convict him if he were stlll alive.im glad weve cleared up that point.as for the "trial by media" quote what other sort trial can there be in this case.

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Janet Gough

11:33pm on 15/10/2012

Shaun I'm afraid all the details in the press would not have been made public knowledge if he was alive to stand trial.Trial by media as you call it would mean the jury could be influenced by the press and could not be impartial. It could lead to the case against him being closed. He would definitely have been arrested and charged. More high profile people than him have. Your Hitler comparrison did you no favours either.

Diane Rogers

9:00am on 14/10/2012

Shaun do you think if he was still alive would all these people come forward

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shaun spencer

9:06am on 14/10/2012

Some did come forward when he was alive and werent believed.

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Para999Tom

9:15am on 14/10/2012

i'm sure if the numbers that have now claimed to have been abused by him had stood up whilst he was alive the authorities would have to have acted accordingly.

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shaun spencer

9:58am on 14/10/2012

Yes thats a fair point.para999tom

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Steven White

10:16am on 14/10/2012

So many ifs, but i and probably most people on this board have not been abused as children so we can't comment on how they felt at the time or why they didn't come forward.

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Julie Crumpton

4:33pm on 15/10/2012

Exactly, Steven!

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shaun spencer

9:23am on 14/10/2012

Can i also add tbis point.a while ago i did some voluntary work for the samaritan and had to do a little training. Part of that training was to always believe what the caller (or victim ) was saying.something that wasnt the case in the 70s 80s or even the 90s.

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john

9:41am on 14/10/2012

A young girl up here complained to the police about being raped by an old tramp on the moor, she received criminal injuries compensation. Some time afterwards the police arrested her boyfriend for a different criminal offence, his DNA was an exact match to the "old tramp", his girlfriend was jailed.

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john

10:02am on 14/10/2012

Voted down for pointing out that some "victims" do lie, the case I mentioned is a matter of fact, recorded by a court of law. What the witch hunters seem unable to grasp is the fact that Saville is dead and cannot be tried or refute the allegations in a court of law. He cannot be punished, vent your spleen on a living paedophile such as Roman Polanski who is on the run from justice in France from his vile crimes against a 13 year old American girl, funny how the US can extradite terrorist suspects but are unable to extradite a multi-millionaire paedophile.

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shaun spencer

10:07am on 14/10/2012

Yes stevie may.i ve been dwelling on that.not so much with the notion of sexial abuse,but how many stars have taken advantage of their status with idolising, groupie young girls

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stevie may

9:43am on 14/10/2012

Jimmy Saville. . . Jonathon King. . . Gary Glitter. . How many famous people from the 70's & 80's still alive today were and are guilty of child abuse? More than a few I bet. . .

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shaun spencer

10:10am on 14/10/2012

Stevie my reply to you accidently went into the reply above

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Diane Rogers

10:05am on 14/10/2012

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Diane Rogers

10:18am on 14/10/2012

Seems I have been naughty

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Julie Crumpton

6:23pm on 14/10/2012

Oh don't worry about it, Diane......I don't! ;-)

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krafty81

11:06am on 14/10/2012

I don't know what to believe. But if it is true then the police that were paid bY js should be investigated now. It does sound like he could be guilty as why would you pay someone to keep quiet if it wasn't true. Also a thorough investigation in to the likes of Ester Ramson or whatever her name iswho suspected these going ons were happening. They are as bad as js if they all turned a blind eye. I agree with the person who said that this should now be taken out of the public eye and the media as let the investigation carry on in private and yes it will probably come out of our taxes but hopefully the people that are still with us and knew will be reprimanded. we all have our own thoughts and opinions on this story but I can get over how childish and pathetic some people are being. Grow up. We will not find out what really happened till the end of the investigation Then I suppose we will then have to put up with the I told you so brigades

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George Clement

3:21pm on 14/10/2012

To Chris Robinson. I have tried twice to reply your posting to back you up and add some of my views byt Orange will not post it and threr is nothing remotely wrong with it.

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Chris Robinson

11:20am on 15/10/2012

Thanks, George.

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Heather Allwright

6:54pm on 14/10/2012

Be sure your sins will find you out! Past. Move on. I was never a fan. Let's worry about little April. Poor little girl.

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Julie Crumpton

7:26pm on 15/10/2012

Different thread, I'm sure everyone feels for little April, but here's not the place, with due respect...

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nettyspray

6:14am on 15/10/2012

well, lets see if SIR saville....... gets stripped of his knighthood !! .

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Julie Crumpton

7:24pm on 15/10/2012

Farce he had it in the first place!

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