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  • 21 October 2012, 18:21

Tebbit: 'PM Incompetent Over Mitchell Row'

David Cameron has been criticised by Conservative grandee Lord Tebbit following Andrew Mitchell's resignation as Chief Whip.

He said the Prime Minister had allowed "this dog of a coalition Government" to look incompetent.

Accused of calling police officers "plebs" when they would not let him leave Downing Street on his bicycle through the main gates, Mr Mitchell finally quit his Cabinet post on Friday.

Despite the unequivocal support of Mr Cameron, Mr Mitchell admitted the ongoing row had made his position untenable.

Writing in The Observer, Lord Tebbit said: "This dog of a coalition Government has let itself be given a bad name and now anybody can beat it.

"It has let itself be called a Government of unfeeling toffs. Past governments have had far more real Tory toffs: prime ministers Alec Douglas-Home and Harold Macmillan, or even in Thatcher's day, Whitelaw, Soames, Hailsham, Carrington, Gowrie, Joseph, Avon, Trenchard and plenty more, without incurring similar abuse."

He added: "The abiding sin of the Government is not that some ministers are rich, but that it seems unable to manage its affairs competently."

A cabinet minister in Margaret Thatcher's government, Lord Tebbit said Mr Cameron needed to impose "some managerial discipline not just on his colleagues but on himself".

Nadine Dorries, Conservative MP for Mid-Bedfordshire, also criticised Downing Street's reaction to the situation with Mr Mitchell.

She told Sky's Murnaghan programme: "Unfortunately it's been a catastrophe.

"To some people it's beginning to look that at the end of last week or certainly yesterday we were reaching a bit of a tipping point and it was beginning to look and smell very much like the worst days when John Major and the Back To Basics catastrophe happened.

"I hope that the last week is a bit of a wake up call both to number 10 and the people who work for the PM because we can't continue to have little mini-disasters.

"Someone in number 10 needs to stop and get a grip."

The criticism comes amid reports that Mr Mitchell decided to step down after younger Tory MPs from the 2010 intake made clear their hostility when Parliament returned this week.

Many were dismayed that the row dragged on for so long and that Mr Mitchell - who did not attend the Conservative Party Conference in Birmingham earlier this month - had not been sacked by the PM.

It has been a disastrous week for Mr Cameron following Mr Mitchell's decision to quit and reports George Osborne tried to sit in a first class train carriage with only a standard ticket - claims which have been firmly rejected by the Chancellor.

He will attempt to shore up his authority and move on from recent events in a speech next week in which he will call for a new "tough but intelligent" approach to law and order.

A ComRes opinion poll, carried out for The Independent on Sunday and the Sunday Mirror, revealed Labour are now eight percentage points ahead of the Tories.

The Lib Dems were in a distant third with just 10% of those polled opting for the party.

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Chris Robinson

5:15am on 21/10/2012

No, I won't have dogs insulted like this. Try 'a reptile of a coalition'? Entries on a postcard, please. "Lord" Tebbit, they ARE 'unfeeling toffs' AND incompetent - and don't kid yourself - Thatcher and her crew were loathed. In fact, Thatcher was the most hated Prime Minister on record, which made it doubly satisfying when we forced her to resign following our historic victory against the poll tax. It was very enjoyable to watch her leave Downing Street in tears, (tears for herself). Now let's get rid of the present shambles ASAP.

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Jim Ford

9:52am on 21/10/2012

Voided stool of a government? I agree with everything you say Chris, especially the part about the vicious old dragon Thatcher !

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Grant Berry

10:14am on 21/10/2012

Seeing Clown's face when he was played the recording of himself calling one of his core voters a "bigot, awful woman" Or the time he was on the phone begging Clegg to join him in a coalition & had to put the phone down knowing no one wanted him, in fact the biggest loss of seats in history. Priceless !!

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stewgwyn

10:51am on 21/10/2012

If Chris gets 3 votes for the comment, how can Jim get minus 3 for agreeing with it ?

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John Smith

12:46pm on 21/10/2012

I agree about brown, but the tories are in no position to be smug if cameron the best they can come up with!! Even tory voters don't like him, but we will see come next election how much the general public do!!

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Adrian Wagstaff

2:47pm on 21/10/2012

If Lord Tebbit wants to insult dogs, I'm not going to stop him.

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Chris Robinson

5:22am on 21/10/2012

It's good to see Tories are continuing to devour each other. This government is so weak and unstable, yet the Labour and most of the TUC leaders are determined to allow them to hang on until 2015. With the right militant leadership, the labour movement could remove these clowns within days and establish a proper revolutionary socialist government. As things stand, it will happen, one way or the other, but it will take longer, and in that time, so many people's lives are going to be devastated by unemployment, homelessness, poverty - the hallmarks of capitalism.

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Edgar Beckett

9:48am on 21/10/2012

Good idea Chris, everyone on the same income, no private property, everyone allocated the same living space. Public transport for all. how much alcohol would we be rationed to ?

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Grant Berry

10:15am on 21/10/2012

capitalism workd better than socialism

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davethedalek

10:26am on 21/10/2012

Chris This Marxist nonsense of yours is not going to happen. They'll be no return to the 70's with the unions ruling the roost like playground bullies - Those days are well over, Thank God!

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Dave Harrison

11:57am on 21/10/2012

Hi Chris. I note that crowd had more than a little nibble at the Geek during his speech to the protestors yesterday. Hardly surprising as he is promising more pain only slower and therefore for longer.As you say so often nothing is going to change if and when Millibland becomes PM. Many on here would do well to remember this

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andy may

1:15pm on 21/10/2012

dave, i'd just like to express appreciation for your comments on here and sticking to the facts. lots on here seem to be filled with such hatred just because a government doen't adhere to their extremist doctrines. now lets sit back and wait ; )

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Dave Harrison

3:45pm on 21/10/2012

Andy. I try. What does get me down are the insults which get slung around just because someone has a different opinion to you. Name calling is childish and I dont do it, though I am sorely tempted sometimes.

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John Byrne

6:41am on 21/10/2012

Thatcher's government had something that Cameron's has never shown. A strong leader, with conviction. She was far worse than these children playing at government but she managed to enthral the media in the UK and USA, something Cameron's playmates have failed to do. Seems not even the Conservatives have respect for their leaders choices.

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Dave Harrison

9:45am on 21/10/2012

John. Very true. Thatcher was a conviction politician. She had a belief and followed it through. These clowns change their mind every 12 hours.

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Jim Ford

9:55am on 21/10/2012

Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot were strong leaders with conviction!

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Dave Harrison

9:59am on 21/10/2012

Jim. They were dictators with absolute power who could not be turfed out after 5 years by the people. Hardly a comparison that holds water.

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John Byrne

1:47pm on 21/10/2012

Even though the ideas she was convinced of were often wrong she stood by them and convinced others to do so or they were out of the cabinet. Thank god Dave Cameron is not half the person she was.

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dave

2:36pm on 21/10/2012

The German's also had 'a strong leader with conviction' in the 1930s - 1945. So did the Russians under Stalin, the Chinese under Chairman Mao Tse Tung, the Italians under Mussolini.

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John Byrne

3:05pm on 21/10/2012

Id have loved to see you vote any of them out of office.

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Edgar Beckett

7:05am on 21/10/2012

Do we actually need a government ? Surely with the USA, the EU, the Bank of england and the G.A.T.T. ageement plus advice from all these little pseudo-parliaments we have offering advice the Westminster parliament is just an impotent anachronism now.

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Steve V

7:22am on 21/10/2012

Wish Tebbitt were 25 years younger. Best Prime Minister we didn't have.

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Jim Ford

9:57am on 21/10/2012

What - the 'Chingford Skinhead' that said the unemployed ought to get on their bikes to look for work (that didn't exist!)! You must be joking.

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Mike

12:16pm on 21/10/2012

No he didn't Jim; he said that HIS FATHER got on his bike when he was unemployed, not the same thing at all.

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doug piercy

8:57am on 21/10/2012

It would be nice to have someone 'in charge' with a pair of balls. They wont be liked but that's the job. Someone to stand up to Germany,USA,Europe & the media! And possibly put the country before themselves would be nice too :)

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Michael Mcardle

8:58am on 21/10/2012

the incompetence of this government is almost beyond belief. their arrogance knows no bounds. the thought of them not realising how detremental.their failed policies are tearing the country apart as they continue to widen the class divide. the poor get poorer as the rich get richer. how they are managing to hang on to power is beyond me.can anyone blame the scots for wanting to ditch this bunch of smug self serving clowns

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Dave Harrison

9:42am on 21/10/2012

I agree with you Michael. However as far as the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer goes this is hardly something unique to this govt. Under the utopia of the Blair/Brown govts the wealth gap was wider in 2010 than it was in 1997 after 13 glorious years.

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Dave Harrison

9:38am on 21/10/2012

What makes this headline news? Tebbit is only saying what the rest of the country is thinking including a great many Conservative voters. The guy is incompetent

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stewgwyn

9:50am on 21/10/2012

Yes, and I believe the ever-increasing strife within the ranks makes his position untenable.

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gengisken1227

11:00am on 21/10/2012

Spot on DH

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colin_lambert

9:59am on 21/10/2012

I am getting heartily sick of all this rubbish. Is there really nothing more important than this rubbish? Oh I forgot. Crucifying a dead t.v. personality. Obviously just as important and both of which are far more important than the mess this country is in at the moment. Mitchell should never have thought he was important enough to have the main gates opened. After all he was only on a push bike, can he not get a push bike through a pedestrian gate? Conversely what is all this blather about the word 'PLEB'? It is not an insult but a description. Nobody has bothered to actually say what it means. It is Latin. A shortened version of 'Plebian'. The opposite of which is 'Patrician'. A person that does not know the meaning of the word probably is one and since Cameron does not know the translation of 'Magna Carta' he probably does not know the meaning of Plebian, which would therefore make him one! Not a Patrician as he seems to think he is. Hey-ho what IS the world coming to?

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andy may

10:05am on 21/10/2012

colin, although you have provided the derivation of the word pleb, you have not recognised it's meaning in modern day life. words, like society, evolve through time in both popularity, relevance and meaning.

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andy may

10:01am on 21/10/2012

big error by cameron. mitchell is obviously a liar and should have been dismissed for being a liar, not for calling a police officer a pleb. although the latter is disrespectfull and wrong, being a liar should mean instant dismissal from office.

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Dave Harrison

10:40am on 21/10/2012

Andy. I agree entirely but how many politicians over the last 25 years have been embroiled in similar situations and stubbornly refused to resign ? Whoever said there was honour amongst theives

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stewgwyn

10:45am on 21/10/2012

For the reasons correctly stated by you, Andy, dismiss the bloody lot !

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Phil A

11:06am on 21/10/2012

If we sacked MPs and Ministers for lying would we have any left? Seems to me being a skilled liar is a major qualification for the job. Problem is today's MPs are not as good at it asz they think they are because they usually get caught out.

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andy may

1:50pm on 21/10/2012

your right dave. if being caught out as a liar meant instant dismissal, blair, prescott and that disgusting spin doctor would have all been collecting their p45's.

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Dave Harrison

1:57pm on 21/10/2012

Andy. Oh I knew who they were, you have just put names to them

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gengisken1227

11:03am on 21/10/2012

This isn't really news, PR Dave couldn't run a bath, let alone this country.

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stevie may

11:17am on 21/10/2012

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Edgar Beckett

11:47am on 21/10/2012

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stevie may

12:34pm on 21/10/2012

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Grant Berry

1:18pm on 21/10/2012

Lady Thatcher to you.

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TIM x

12:03pm on 21/10/2012

Actually Cameron is just incompetent full stop. I see orange has now changed to EE which as we all know stands for everything edited. . .

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Steve V

12:23pm on 21/10/2012

Incidentally a friend of mine took the principle of getting on his bike and looking for work literally- It took him round the world 5 times and he recommends it to anyone.

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Peter Coates

1:41pm on 21/10/2012

Incompetent, indecisive, dithering, non-listener, non representative, nincompoop.

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John Smith

2:51pm on 21/10/2012

Could not have said it better myself!!

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stevie may

1:52pm on 21/10/2012

Tebbit should keep his mouth shut. . . He is responsible, and Thatcher, for swelling the underclass and spreading hopelesness. . Wait and see how long before my comments are removed again. Why does orange always seem to censor views against extreem right wing regimes?

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Grant Berry

1:54pm on 21/10/2012

This is nothing............ Seeing Clown's face when he was played the recording of himself calling one of his core voters a "bigot, awful woman" Or the time he was on the phone begging Clegg to join him in a coalition & had to put the phone down knowing no one wanted him, in fact the biggest loss of seats in history. Priceless !!

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stevie may

2:03pm on 21/10/2012

Youve just repeated yourself Grant. . Are you dribbling and rambling like your hero thatcher does?

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Neil Elmes

3:04pm on 21/10/2012

Must admit I thought Brown was a very poor PM. But then along came Cameron !!!!

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Alf Bibby

3:43pm on 21/10/2012

Granty Granty Granty another ranty ranty ranty. Do you actually know what you are talking about, if you had a braincell your head could be a rattle.

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dave

2:38pm on 21/10/2012

They are tearing the party apart - let them get on with it.

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Alf Bibby

3:46pm on 21/10/2012

Calamity Cameron is a political coward, waits to see which way the wind blows then goes with it. Clegg is just a coward.

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Allan Evans

4:07pm on 21/10/2012

I never EVER thought that I would agree with anything Tebbit said, but today I find myself nodding at his remarks. The underlying gist of Tebbit however is that these knobs are not really TOFFS, just rich people who think they are, and beleive they are elite! While the "true" elite have had hundreds of years to perfect their handling of the plebs without ap"peer"ing too look down on people.

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