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  • 30 December 2011, 12:34

Records Reveal Thatcher's Defence Cuts Battle

A year before she oversaw victory in the Falklands Conflict, Margaret Thatcher was embroiled in a battle with British defence chiefs over spending cuts, and was warned that she could "prejudice our national security."

The full extent of the internal arguments which preceded the invasion of the Falklands was exposed in documents released by the National Archives.

The Cabinet papers were kept secret for 30 years.

On May 18th, 1981 the head of the Royal Navy wrote to her after she had initially refused to meet him to discuss proposed budget changes.

The First Sea Lord Admiral Sir Henry Leach said: "I note with regret but understanding that the tightness of your programme precludes your seeing me personally as requested.

"I am confident however that you will at least spare two minutes to read this note from the professional Head of the Navy before you and your Cabinet colleagues consider a proposition substantially to dismantle that Navy."

He ended his letter with a warning that with hindsight seems remarkably prescient.

"We are on the brink of a historic decision. War seldom takes the expected form and a strong maritime capability provides flexibility for the unforeseen," he said.

"If you erode it to the extent envisaged I believe you will foreclose your future options and prejudice our national security."

The files also contain a letter written by the then Foreign Secretary Lord Carrington in which he advised that the axing of HMS Endurance from its duty in the region could have dramatic consequences.

"Any reduction would be interpreted by both the islanders and the Argentines as a reduction in our commitment to the Islands and in our willingness to defend them," he wrote.

Then-Defence Secretary Sir John Nott told Sky News: "Endurance had been up for scrapping for the previous 10 years and it would have taken a great deal of money to keep her going. At the time it seemed like a sensible decision.

"We had no idea that the Falklands problem was going to arise, in retrospect I wish in fact we hadn't done it. But you know you can be very wise after the event."

In late March the following year the Argentinian military government led by General Leopoldo Galtieri invaded the remote outpost of South Georgia, before taking control of the Falkland Islands.

Sir Henry Leach recommended that the islands could be retaken if a Naval Task Force was dispatched immediately. Argentinian forces surrendered on June 14th.

The 10-week war cost 255 British and 655 Argentinian lives. Three islanders also died.

The dispute over the Islands' sovereignty continues, and this month several South American countries refused to allow ships flying the Falklands flag to dock in their ports.

And there are many other issues from the 1981 Cabinet papers which continue to resonate in 2011.

The battle to control public spending at a time of economic difficulties; the fall out from inner city riots; there are even insights into Anglo-French diplomacy - always a tricky issue as David Cameron has recently discovered.

Leafing through the folders of letters and briefing papers from 1981, while wearing the obligatory white gloves to protect what are historical documents, there are many examples of the personal hand of Baroness Thatcher.

She has underlined the most important points, or added comments directed to her officials.

On one public expenditure briefing she notes to Tim Lancaster, her Private Secretary for Economic Affairs: "Tim, I cannot just do nothing about this. We appear to have nocontrol over expenditure."

In another she writes: "Tim, this is another example of cabinet taking decisions on totally inadequate information. This cannot go on."

In the aftermath of the riots in Brixton and Toxteth, the files contain a lengthy list compiled by the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir David McNee of equipment he feels is needed to protect officers and maintain public order.

CS gas, rubber bullets and water cannon are recommended along with riot shields and protective headgear.

There is also a suggestion for what was termed a Heli-Telly - a helicopter equipped with surveillance cameras.

And when briefed that an upcoming visit to Britain by the French President Francois Mitterrand would involve a 40-minute car ride together without room in the vehicle for an interpeter, Mrs Thatcher decides to greet him at Downing St rather than travel with him from RAF Northolt.

There was also a lengthy discussion with French officials over the fact that Mrs Thatcher would be seated in a chair with arms while the French President's chair was armless.

The French objected until it was pointed out that a previous President had sat in an armless chair.

The once private messages from the Thatcher premiership are even more timely because of next week's release of the film about her life.

The Iron Lady stars Meryl Streep, but the documents also reveal Baroness Thatcher to be the Ironing Lady.

When a row develops about the cost of providing household items for her Downing St flat she tells officials on three occasions that she is prepared to buy her own ironing board, and pointed that she has "an excellent ironing board which is not in use at home".

She also offers to use her own crockery. Thrift in public spending began in the Thatcher home.

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IRONSTINE

9:58am on 30/12/2011

hisTORY repeats

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doug piercy

10:19am on 30/12/2011

Would be nice to have someone with a pair back in gov. Not always right but strong, no one like her today that's 4 sure.

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Grant Baines

10:33am on 30/12/2011

Universally hated by the late 80s its amazing how time can change our opinion of her. Maybe Cameron and Clegg will be glorified in 20 to 30 years time

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stevie may

11:08am on 30/12/2011

She is still hated and despised - she did more damage to our industrial base than the luftwaffe, she set us on the course of faceless capitalism (the same evil system that curses our country today) and disenfranchised millions of people into the underclass, where they still suffer today. She destroyed our unions, weakened out democracy, gave too much power to the police and security services - while she helped to establish a tiny uber rich elite upon the sweat and blood of working people. Theres going to be street parties when she croaks - and given the level of hatred that still simmers for her - theyd better bury her deep

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Citizen Lucien

11:40am on 30/12/2011

Wonderfully written Stevie, if I may say so.

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stephen

12:25pm on 30/12/2011

well said stevie

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Windows Live User

12:59pm on 30/12/2011

Could leave a bit sticking out of the ground. Somewhere to park the bike

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Keith Reeder

1:01pm on 30/12/2011

As Frankie Boyle said, the question isn't whether she should get a state funeral, but whether we should have to wait until she dies before we bury her. I have EVERY intention of dancing on her grave when she finally pops her clogs - but then again, the undead have a habit of hanging around for a long time, don't they?

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Citizen Lucien

11:39am on 30/12/2011

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stephen

12:24pm on 30/12/2011

didn't like her in 1979 . didn't like her when she was kicked out screaming . and now in 2011 hate the bloody site of her rot in hell

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Citizen Lucien

12:37pm on 30/12/2011

Oh here we go with Orange, let's see if we can fathom out which was it below that lead me to violating their terms and conditions. I reminded people below that Thatcher has been granted a state funeral..... See above

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Citizen Lucien

12:37pm on 30/12/2011

I suggest that Thatcher's funeral will require more security than the olympics.

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Citizen Lucien

12:38pm on 30/12/2011

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Citizen Lucien

12:40pm on 30/12/2011

Clearly, because Orange do not make clear their terms and conditions of this forum, we just have to play silly games like this. Click on terms and conditions and see what I mean.

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stephen

12:43pm on 30/12/2011

citizen the state funeral may not happen . its only talk at the moment

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Citizen Lucien

12:52pm on 30/12/2011

Hiya Stephen, how are you. Thanks for this. I thought it was a certainty. I hope it doesn't happen.

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Windows Live User

12:56pm on 30/12/2011

Our Glorious Leader Cameron may find himself in a similar position with the recent cuts he made to the navy. Gone is the Arc Royal, leaving us to "share" an aircraft carrier with France of all people. After his recent spat with Sarkozy, Cameron might now be wishing he still had the Arc, given the problems arising with our South American friends over the Falklands. I can see Sarkozy spitting out "sign up to the Eurozone or find some other aircraft carrier to use" Stange how our leaders, since Churchill see no value in a well equiped defence force, choosing to look no further than current conflicts, and ignoring signs of upcoming trouble heading our way

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Citizen Lucien

12:59pm on 30/12/2011

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Citizen Lucien

1:04pm on 30/12/2011

Now with my totally paranoid head on. What on earth is this story all about in the first place? I'm not into conspiracy theory, but is Thatcher not being used here as a destraction away from the pretty boy we all love to hate? (And if any of you dare to ask who I am referring to, you will deserve a big slap on the jacksy!)

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Keith Reeder

1:06pm on 30/12/2011

It's amazing that she gets the "credit" for winning the Falklands war - if she'd had her way, we wouldn't even have been able to beat the SWISS Navy in a straight fight!

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Windows Live User

1:16pm on 30/12/2011

As far as I am concerned it was the lads who went there that won the war in the Falklands plus their commanders who guided them. Definately not people like Thatcher who only try to climb on bandwagons

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Citizen Lucien

1:20pm on 30/12/2011

Well said Windows

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Grant Berry

1:07pm on 30/12/2011

100 years from now she will be seen as one of our greatest, Bliar/Brown will be seen as one our worst.

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Keith Reeder

1:11pm on 30/12/2011

She'll only be seen as the "greatest" by people who didn't suffer at her hand. She's right up there with Pol Pot - who showed a similar level of concern for his countrymen - as far as I'm concerned.

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Citizen Lucien

1:12pm on 30/12/2011

Hiya Grant, I'll agree with you that Blair did not leave a legacy of any note. His legacy is the war in Iraq. I think you may be right about Thatcher, BUT, it will never be deserved. It's what counts today and OUR opinion of her that is important. The paths of glory......There will be little clues however to advise people of how loved she was, for example, statues that had to be placed in very secure areas.

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Windows Live User

1:13pm on 30/12/2011

Yeah, one hundred years is about right. It will take that long for us to forget what she did! We dont remember Ghengis Khan with hate now do we?

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stephen

1:20pm on 30/12/2011

. i will pass the truth on too the next generation and he will pass the truth on and so on .

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Citizen Lucien

1:54pm on 30/12/2011

Absolutely Stephen. I think we have a duty to do that.

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stephen

1:07pm on 30/12/2011

citizen thatcher has been very unwell for a long time . i believe god is giving her a slow and pain full death. for all the evil things she did too the working classes

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Citizen Lucien

1:19pm on 30/12/2011

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Citizen Lucien

1:23pm on 30/12/2011

Always remember when posting on an ORANGE forum that you are posting on a forum that does not allow free speech. ORANGE will remove posts under the claim of violations of their terms and conditions. As orange do not make clear the terms and conditions of the forum, they are not worthy of managing a forum in a democracy that allows free speech.

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stephen

2:05pm on 30/12/2011

Margaret thatcher in 100 years will be remembered for kill all big industry . deregulating the banks . which in 2008 caused a melt down in the banking system . and then the Tory party blamed labour for it (always remember to tell the truth)

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Citizen Lucien

2:10pm on 30/12/2011

On the subject of Margaret Thatcher can we please have a moments reflection for the young men who died during the Falklands campaign and can we also include all those poor souls who lost their lives on the Belgrano? Now Orange, if you delete this, perhaps you would have the courage of your conviction to advise us as to why remembering young people who have died in conflict is a violation of your terms and conditions; terms and conditions that you constantly fail to advise us of.

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