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UKIP 'Now The UK's Third Largest Party'
The UK Independence Party has surged to a record poll rating, knocking the Liberal Democrats into fourth place.
The ComRes poll for The Independent On Sunday and the Sunday Mirror put UKIP on 14% - a six-point gain on last month and the party's highest rating in a ComRes poll.
Two other polls in Sunday newspapers - the Observer's Opinium and the Mail On Sunday Survation - also put UKIP at 14%.
The findings will alarm Tory MPs who fear the party is haemorrhaging support over issues such as Europe, the economy and its support for gay marriage.
The ComRes poll, which interviewed 2,002 people online between December 12 and 14, put the Conservatives on 28%, down three points from a month ago and 11 points behind Labour, who are down four on 39%.
Support for the Lib Dems is down to single figures at 9%, a one-point fall on the month, which puts five points between them and Nigel Farage's party.
Mr Farage told Sky News: "All the way through UKIP's history people have doubted what UKIP can achieve.
"We've shown in the last two European elections what we're capable of - and I would remind people in 2009 that we came second across the entire United Kingdom.
"And what's happened in 2012 is that all the big issues that we've campaigned long and hard for for many, many years - and taken much abuse for - those issues have become absolutely at the centre ground of what people out there are talking about.
"Unless we see some really substantial change from the Government and from the Labour party in particular - with a U-turn on Europe, open-door immigration, gay marriage and other things - there's no reason to think that this level of support for UKIP can't be maintained."
Communities and Local Government Secretary Eric Pickles told Sky's Murnaghan programme that he takes UKIP, which he describes as "a party of dissent", very seriously.
"They represent a voice, and I am very firmly of the view the only way to deal with them is to get dug in, and to fight them on the ground on community issues," he said.
But Mr Pickles said this does not mean the Tories should not form a pact with UKIP.
"I think it is absolutely wrong (that it can be) always assumed that some kind of deal could be done and people would flood back to us. Governments sometimes have to make some very difficult decisions," he said.
He also said: "I think it's important that if we do have a referendum on our future with Europe it's got to be on the basis of not trying to outsmart UKIP or trying to ensure that we can bring the whole conservative party in one - it should be in the national interest."
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what do you think?
d and d Phillips
Who is surprised?
This comes as no surprize to me.might tell torys and labour something.bring on the local elections.
Hooray !!! anybody bar the Lib/Lab/Cons
Even better than UKIP
Only one snag ! under the " simple majority system " the Labour section of the Lib/Lab/Cons would still clean up the lot.
You might find that UKIP would get an even bigger vote if there was an actual election taking place. The Tories and labour seem to cut everything up between themselves. The voters are fed up with them. They are both spent parties.
Although I am a supporter of UKIP we will be the third largest party in the country vote wise with no seats. UKIP will destroy the Tory vote in key marginal seats resulting in a labour government. Yet it's all so simple to get your votes back David. 1. Referendum NOW 2. A five year freeze on ALL immigration except for genuine tourists. 3. Qatada OUT NOW a simple law change to override the court system and let Theresa may deal with his deportation. But you won't. And you will pay the price. And this country will be destroyed by another 5 year's of labour resulting in the IMF coming in. The choice is yours . .
Totally agree. People won't trust Cameron to provide a referendum after election- he's pulled that stunt already. Perhaps as people see the other parties posturing and avoiding real action the UKIP vote will continue to increase. Just need to win that all illusive first parliamentary seat, then things will really take off.
TIM. I think you are right that a big vote for UKIP will result in Labour getting in by the back door but that is still no reason to slavishly follow only the two main parties. Those who believe that anything will change under a Labour govt are sadly misguided
I will be voting UKIP as they as they are the only party with any simple common sense!! As usual I'm getting a few negatives from the assorted lefties here but they should be pleased. They will soon be back in power bankrupting the country and throwing benefits at the world and his wife to come and live here.
People will only take so much good on ukip
The liberal democrats and some conservatives will eventually join the labour party and the rest will join ukip. Its the only way i see politics panning out now. UKIP 2015
Now if I was presented with this '........ findings will alarm Tory MPs who fear the party is haemorrhaging support over issues such as Europe, the economy and its support for g a y marriage............ ' I might think it tells me something. Shame those in power have not got the intellect to see a message there.
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It's about time the people of this country were given a say on Europe, but the politicians already know what the answer will be and It's not what the Government want. There I thought this was meant to be a democracy but it appears not!
Daft Cameron is slow to realise the fact that due to his stupid agenda, he has become UKIPs chief recruiting sergeant.
UKIP is simply the new home for the kind of Tory that thinks that the Tories are not quite nasty enough for them. Remember what happened to Labour when they had the same kind of split with the Williams, Owen gang? Oh for a party of normal people, I detest these professional gobsmiths who haven't done an honests days work in a real job, work to them is waving their silly tongues about and fiddling expenses.
" Normal people " ? like our 657 MPs.
or is it 567 ? makes no odds..
What's normal about them?
d and d Phillips
No, 5, 6 & 7 is the hours they work
People are waking up that LibLabCon are all from the same elite gene pool, who's only interest is their careers and they don't care what happens to this country nor what lies they tell us. And why is that? Because until UKIP, what was the alternative? - There wasn't one. All three LibLabCon are losing voters, as UKIP is up to 14%, Labour lost 4% and Cons lost 3% - so it's not just ex tories unhappy with lying incompetent ex schoolboys playing with our lives and futures. We were conned into the EU by Ted Heath, who later admitted he'd lied and that one big EU government to rule every country was the original plan anyway. Kinnock was anti until he discovered he and Glynis could each trouser 1 million a year (of our money). Clegg is just a nutter, although he risks losing his EU pension if he dissents. This could be a seminal moment in our history if we each have the courage to do something different from repeating the failed pattern of the past. Personally I'm voting UKIP and you know what? - I feel cleaner.
Sadly Gengisken, it will be just another case of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss". The type of person who wants to be a politician is the wrong one. We should choose governments like we choose juries, then we might get some honest people with brains.
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Gengis. A well put point of view and one which I for one am increasingly coming round to. I am sick of Labour replacing Tories making a mess and then Tories replacing Labour and making another mess. Time for a sea change away from the 2 main parties who quite frankly differ in so few areas
John. You don't know until you have tried. God knows we have tried the Labour-Tory-Labour switch time and time again and it has been found wanting. Nothing I have seen of Labour or the Tories suggests next time is going to be any different.
But Mr Pickles said this does not mean the Tories should not form a pact with UKIP. Power at any cost party. So Farage thinks the main issues keeping him from power are the EU,open door immigration,gaye marrage and "other things",obviously his mind was blank to the real issues affecting the British people,millions in poverty,housing,jobs,energy prices and infrastructure,manufacturing,excessive imports,banks and the economy in general,and not to mention the ever widening gap between the rich and poor. Yes vote ukip its a nobrainer,or should that be for the nobrainers.
You`ve not read the UKIP manifesto have you ? time you did. And when you have open your eyes to the true cost of the EU and immigration
Poverty, housing, jobs, crime, NHS, all related to mass immigration. So he is addressing the issues.
If there was ever a time for an alternative party, it has been in these past few years. The fact is all the main parties are just the same, self-serving careerists, who "play" at politics without any consideration for others. Regardless of whether I am correct or not, the electorate are fed up and have lost all trust in our MPs. So it comes as no surprise that polls have indicated Ukip as gaining ground and becoming the third main party. To aid them has been the appalling incompetence, weakness, cowardice, untrustworthiness and betrayal of the Lib Dems. I was glad they had an apportunity in government, albeit a coalition, because we have been able to see them for what they are . They won't be doing well at the next election. It's just a shame that UKIP are a one issue party.
Negative, they have a range of policies
OK Edgar, I'll assume you are only referring to the last sentence. So please let me have them. Not to challenge by any means to challenge you Edgar, I'd simply like to know them...I may even vote for them myself.
Sorry, but where I live (Germany) the UKIP would be classified as ultra-right-wing and either banned or ostracized for being almost Neo-National Socialist. Fact is, too, that Britain needs Europe way more than Europe needs Britain. Think about it!
1. People who are not " modern liberals " are ostracised. 2. Think how much happier Europeans will be when we`re gone if you`re correct. and 3. Judging by the replies, we are doing a lot of thinking about it.
you are right,we need Europe more,than the other way around,but we don't want to know,because we are stubborn,we would go bankrupt first,before we give in to Europe!!
Love it, the Lib Dems sold their souls for a sniff of the barmaids apron, now the chickens are coming home to roost. At least UKIP have political message that they adhere to, I don't agree with them but I don't think they would sell their souls so cheaply. Bye bye Lib Dems, political oblivion for you.
UKIP represents the disgruntled rightwing element of the Tory Party. They will succeed in drawing away votes from the Tories which will increase the likelihood of another New Labour government who will continue with needless cuts so it will be business as usual. We need a new party based on our trade unions who donate to Labour but see nothing for it.
Now this is more akin to me. I see Labour as being just as self serving as the rest of em. I am hoping the young ones of today will shake off this misplaced loyalty that many still have today for the Labour Party...under the misguided belief that this party somehow represents working people. Sadly politics in this country is infested with the viruses of greed, self-importance and avarice. It's not just with the main political parties too. You will find it at local level politics and within the high ranks of the trade unions.
We don't need any such party. That will be the final nail in the coffin.
Does UKIP still intend to increase income tax to 31% for everyone earning over 11,000 pounds a year if they come to power?
When have we ever needed Europe before?