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Young Drivers 'Face Passenger Restrictions'
Young drivers could be banned from carrying passengers who are not members of their own family in a bid to cut the number of deaths on the roads.
More than 1,500 17 to 24-year-olds in the UK were killed or seriously injured while driving a car last year, according to the Department for Transport.
One in every eight drivers is under 25, but they account for a third of the number of people who die on the Britain's roads.
Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin told the Daily Telegraph he would consider measures put forward by the Association of British Insurers (ABI) which could cut the number of accidents involving young motorists.
"There is a suggestion as to whether you should look at a restriction whether anyone could carry passengers for six or nine months when they have first passed their test," he said.
"There are suggestions about them only perhaps being allowed to take a family member to drive a car when you are learning, you have to have a qualified driver in the car. So these are all sorts of areas that I think we can look at."
Among the ABI proposals are a ban on carrying passengers other than family members, a minimum one-year learning period, restrictions on night time driving for the first six months after passing their test and a lower alcohol limit.
The ABI's Huw Evans said:"We absolutely acknowledge that most young drivers are responsible people who want to learn a useful life skill that will be very important for them both in their work and their private lives.
"The key thing is to help them to become safer and most accidents happen not because people are being reckless but because they're inexperienced."
Kelly Phillips, 17, from Surrey, died in 2005 when the car she was a passenger in hit a tree at 80mph.
She had been sitting in a car listening to music with a 17-year-old boy who did not yet have his licence - the decision to go for a drive on the public road cost them both their lives.
Kelly's mother, Della Phillips, told Sky News: "I try to hide behind this facade of strength. But inside I'm crying all the time, I'm missing her all the time.
"It's like a craving, you're not seeing the memories you expected to see when you have a child."
Ms Phillips is calling for an alternative approach to the measures being considered by the Government and is backing a free education campaign called Drive IQ - an online education programme that puts pre-drivers and novices through potentially hazardous road scenarios.
Some 350 schools and 30,000 young people already use the programme but it could be rolled out to thousands more.
She said: "When it comes to young people being safer in cars, lack of knowledge can kill. I know that only too well.
"We want every mum and dad out there to ensure their child and their child's school/college uses Drive IQ straightaway as it addresses attitude and behaviour.
"We have to tackle this issue right now."
Louise Ellman, chair of the Commons Transport Select Committee, told Sky News that something has to change.
"We need the Government to come forward very quickly now about what their proposals are.
"There should be support for voluntary activities, perhaps in schools, perhaps in driving clubs to develop positive attitudes towards driving before people actually take their tests."
:: Road Safety Week runs from November 19 to November 25. For more information visit www.roadsafetyweek.org.uk.
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what do you think?

Jasmin Louise
Insurance companies have known this for years. Young drivers shouldn't be allowed to drive high-powered cars. Insurance companies are profiting from these problems, instead of trying to prevent them. Parents need to take responsibility too.

Adj Jackson
Has tragic has thi is how can you include him in this the young man had no licence so was no driver... And if you see all the kids at 11 in the driving scholl thing at the trafford centremore will think they can drive onthe roads ending in tradegy to someone. Its stark raving MAD to let these kidslearn basic driving skills a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

Barnaby Erdman
Need to copy the aussies on this subject, not exactly sure what they're rules are but have limits for young drivers. I say, if under 21 in the first years of driving only allowed one passenger, and not allowed to drive after 10pm or before 6am. P plates should be compulsory.

Jasmin Louise
Hi Barnaby, quite correct! I think they not allowed to drive after 8pm.

Adj Jackson
What about the carful drivers who work outside those hours?? The public transport is pants my son starts on a sunday at 8am the earliest public transport is 9.20 so I have to take him. The trouble is the power of cars today for a few hundred pounds you can stick another 100bhp on a corsa which is great however they always seem to leave the uprated brakes, and suspension to cope with this extra power until the last hence a fast car that can't corner or stop

david
never will be able to sort this 1 out young people some drive fast,,,and when they have a person with them its called showing of,,unless we make cars that cant go above 50 mpr that you are only allowed to drive till you are passed fit to move up to a bigger car,, you could talk about this for ever

Matt Stoner
If these ideas became a reality how would they be enforced?.....More valuable time and energy put on an already stretched Police force for the sake of a few immature boy/girl racers. When I passed my test at 18, I was sensible, I had to be as my jobs that followed relied on having a licence. I even got my HGV licence at 25yrs old. These "drivers" don't just drive like imbeciles during the hours of darkness, they drive like it during the day too, so a curfew would be pointless. We have to go back to grass roots and tackle the problem from the day the L-plates come off. Newly qualified drivers should have to go on and pass a speed awareness and advanced driving course, until they do, they can only purchase/drive cars with 1.2l engines or less. Motorbike licence tests have done similar for years, if you want to ride a bigger bike, you have to have more training and pass the relevant test......

Rob Unstable
If they pass theyre licence then they can drive.. if they choose to do 80mph after "being passed" then thats theyre choice, no one forces them to drive like nutters

Valerie Wood
problem is Rob they involve innocent people

Rob Unstable
But an accident always involves innocent people, trying to impose limits on people who have passed there test just because statistics show they are more likely to cause an accident just means the statistics will move onto another group of people maybe 40-50 as theyre more likely to be drunk behind the wheel kinda thing

Michael Hawkins
Rob What about those they take out - the pedestrian, child, cyclist, other car users that they hit What abouot their families

Michael Hawkins
"Kelly Phillips, 17, from Surrey, died in 2005 when the car she was a passenger in hit a tree at 80mph. She had been sitting in a car listening to music with a 17-year-old boy who did not yet have his licence" Would a change of law made any difference in this case ? Make it too restrictive and you will have more cases like this

m_v_bridgman
Don't let them drive powerful cars? What do you consider powerful? I don't think there is a car on the market in the UK that can't do at least 100mph. So thats a stupid suggestion. Also the time limits... Don't be ridiculous. The reason most people want to drive is commuting to & from work. In the early morning or late at night. So no, that's no good either. It's about the parents. The kids involved in most if these incidents are, for lack of a better word, Chavs. Kids become chavs thinking they are all 'cool' because of the parents. You all learnt to drive a while back I assume, and had no young drivers causing accidents eh? No restrictions placed on you, but now your older it won't affect you so what the hey, raise the age limits, ban them from driving when they need to drive, make them all drive reliant robins, and by God don't let them ever help a friend out by giving them a lift...

Rob Unstable
When all other names fall short you can revert back to "chav" because that explains all... Lol seriously

m_v_bridgman
In short what I am trying to say is don't tar all young people with the same brush. And power does not kill. A car is only as powerful as the person driving it. You can do 100mph in a 1.2 corsa. And all cars can do 50 in a 30 zone. Which is where most accidents happen. So power is not an issue. It is poor education, from schools and parents that make (some) kids lack any respect for the safety of themselves or others.

Windows Live User
Wont save the driver/passengers in the car they hit will it?

Windows Live User
lift the age of drivers to 25. they are starting to get their brains out of the plastic by then. Limit their cars to 40mph and no motorway for at least a year then take the limiter up to 60mph Wow people are going to love this

m_v_bridgman
So you had your 'brain in plastic' until 25 then? Think people need to remember that everybody was young once. And effectively labelling them all as stupid until 25 means you must of been too... Personally I think once you get to 50 you should have to take another form of test every 5 years or so.

Valerie Wood
the problem with young people is that they think they are invincible. They don't tend to use a car for the purpose it was made for i.e. getting from A to B. Instead it is a status symbol. We need to try and change attitudes but youngsters think they know it all. I can remember being like that in my teens

Andrea Hill
No way brigdman. ive brrn driving.since 17, no accidents, only couple parking tkts, why should 50yr olds have to do tests. its the stupid youngsters speeding, playing their awful music who are a menace

Jasmin Louise
Sorry Andrea, to be honest I think elderly drivers should re~take a driving test. Sight and hearing are crucial to safe driving.

Jasmin Louise
Thank you for the thumbs down! Lol. Ok, ill try and explain better :). Drivers over 70 are a danger on the road too. Younger drivers (some) may show recklessness etx! Those over 70' show deterioration of reaction etc! They're also frail and their injuries tend to be more serious!.

m_v_bridgman
I agree Valerie, that's why it falls to the parents and education system to keep them grounded and responsible. The stats in the article say a lot. 25% caused by young drivers. Which means that 75% where not. Andrea I am 25 and don't drive, do this didn't really affect me but it does annoy me seeing young people being blamed for everything bad that happens. I have plenty of friends that have been driving since 17 with no accidents. So it is not just a blanket young people problem. I have had more bad experiences (as a passenger of course) with older people on the roads.

Adj Jackson
You here time and time again of drivers without a licence killing somebody banned drivers driving while disqualified. They get 6 months and banned from driving???? Er wasn't they already banned??? Local paper 14 caught driving while disqualified????? HES NOT OLD ENOUGH TO DRIVE so nothing will ever work the countries lost all self respect kids dont care parents dont give a damn and Innocent ppl die

Jeem Bob
I was thinking about this the other day. Insurance companies are now offering a'black box' in your car which will cut your premium as it monitors your speed etc. Perhaps all new drivers should have this as a compulsory thing for the first 12 months of driving.

m_v_bridgman
That's a better idea than any restrictions. Restrict people too much and they will rebel, and young people already see the world as being against them. Causing more issues. However, monitoring their behavior is a good way of weeding out the trouble makers.

Peter Coates
As it says above there's only one safety week in the year.

Vladtheinhaler .
Restricting youngsters will only increase their desire to act foolishly. It's not just young men by the way, although insurance companies treat them as the devil incarnate. I know some young lads who drive really well, and most young women are typical of their gender, they can't handle cars, properly, and should stay clear of roads altogether !!!. Insurance for a 21 year old male could be on average, 1500 pounds. For a 21 year old female in the same circumstances, it would be half of that. Why is sexual discrimination allowed in the insurance industry. My daughter can get insured for half of what her twin brother pays. She hasn't got a license, he has 3 years NCB. What is going on !!!!

m_v_bridgman
In short what I am trying to say is don't tar all young people with the same brush. And power does not kill. A car is only as powerful as the person driving it. You can do 100mph in a 1.2 corsa. And all cars can do 50 in a 30 zone. Which is where most accidents happen. So power is not an issue. It is poor education, from schools and parents that make (some) kids lack any respect for the safety of themselves or others.

t.bulgin
Five youngsters, none older than 18 killed in a smash up near where I live a few years back. The lad driving took a corner too fast (showing off to his mates and girlfriends) and hit a wall. This is good news. Anything that can help stop a road death is to be welcomed.

Jasmin Louise
Absolutely, It always leaves a lump in my throat seeing flowers by the roadside too.

shirley sutton
think this is a good idea seems lots of accidents are groups of freinds on a night out - maybe it will cut the number of tragic deaths

stephen
put something on the engine .so it will not go over 50 mph

robert
I would suggest limiting engine size to 1.2 MAX for first 3yrs. No rear seats,therefore only allowing 1 passenger to be carried as most crashes involving young drivers seem to have 4 people in the car.The more people in the car leads to egging on to go faster,bravado or whatever you want to call it.And also displaying some form of I.D. on the vehicle of the owner and date when test was passed,thus helping the police in their duty if they need to stop the vehicle for any reason.





krafty81
7:38am on 17/11/2012
Put the age up for having a licence. Don't allow them to have powerful cars. Have some sort of devise to only allow them to do a certain speed. just a few ideas.
Russell Clarke
11:31am on 17/11/2012
Half of them still drive like idiots in there 1.2's and the richer parents with there DBI's ( daddy brought it ) . Police need to crack down harder on them. But also they need to get the idiots in there big posh audis and bmws etc that can't be bothered to drive at a sensible speed !!!